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Motability
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OptionARMAGEDDON wrote: »I would prefer to run my chances and give this country a headstart over the rest of the globe than sink the nation through self pity and a deep rooted socialist instinct that I am owed anything.
You could always decamp and share the future growth of China and t benefits that will bring?
We had a head start Government policy squandered it over decades.
There are many more things Governments waste money on hand over fist that could be cut back as a priority. But for political reasons the Government keep on spending on them.
Don't dispute there is some waste in the current scheme, there is always headline waste in any scheme be it public or private."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I agree this is only an element of whats being wasted/spent but as tax payers we have a right to know these things are being looked at and all results should be published. I want my taxes to be spent efficiently on the most needy people in society, I don't believe motability as it stands is actually doing this.
Happy for a review but I doubt it would make much difference to the overall bill without changing the criteria markedly. Unless you deflate the balloon (demand) then simply squeezing it one way will just mean it will pop out somewhere else. squeeze it too much it bursts and picking up the pieces will cost you more again.
Passing the issue back to manufacturer to maintain won't help because they will need recover their additional costs too.
The TCO of a new v "old" scheme or an vehicle age extended scheme i am sure would be fairly similar, heavy depreciation being offset by increased, maintenance and management costs. In many lease schemes it isn't always the cost of the item that is the issue it is the maintenance/insurance and administration costs that tot up.
Whilst you maybe able to cut deals on cheaper maintenance these will all need Supplier managing which layers up cost. The suppliers will also build a mirror layer of Service management to face off. Elements of this may exist in the existing scheme but you would be moving form plain vanilla to tutti fruiti, once you bring in variability prices soar.
Lastly would you trust the review if it simply said we are getting best value and we are happy with the criteria. Especially when it has just cost us another "£50m" for the review buy "consultants"."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
It's called 'parent and child' nor 'mother and toddler'. Idiot.Graham_Devon wrote: »If they have a blue badge, which entitles them to park in disabled spaces it means they have passed the criteria to use a disability space.
You don't have to be disabled per se to use them. Just as you don't have to be a mother and toddler to use one of those spaces. I'm not a mother, but I can use them, as I am a father.
Could be that they have chronic breathing problems and can't walk far. Could be that they are crippled with arthritis and it's painful to walk. Might be that they have a mentally handicaped member of the family with them. None of those require the use of a wheelchair.0 -
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As far as I am concerned the criteria should be as follows:
If you cannot walk and pass a means tested assessment you may have a lease vehicle. It can only be driven by you. If you need to go somewhere where you would require to be driven then take a taxi from your allowance (or if you can get a family member to take you then all the better - pay for their petrol).
Its odd that I should feel so harsh in stating what to me is the obvious - if you suggested a scheme such as we have in place in many countries you would be laughed at I am sure.
Apologies in advance to those very worthy persons who will view this and be offended but to me £200 per month is a very generous allowance and should pay for a large number of taxis, buses or trains. It should only be available to the truly infirm. This is another case of the well meaning politicians getting it very wrong.0 -
As far as I am concerned the criteria should be as follows:
If you cannot walk and pass a means tested assessment you may have a lease vehicle. It can only be driven by you. If you need to go somewhere where you would require to be driven then take a taxi from your allowance (or if you can get a family member to take you then all the better - pay for their petrol).
Its odd that I should feel so harsh in stating what to me is the obvious - if you suggested a scheme such as we have in place in many countries you would be laughed at I am sure.
Apologies in advance to those very worthy persons who will view this and be offended but to me £200 per month is a very generous allowance and should pay for a large number of taxis, buses or trains. It should only be available to the truly infirm. This is another case of the well meaning politicians getting it very wrong.
Maybe you should read the DLA requirements to get the higher rate mobility part as if you did you would understand that you the criteria is pretty strict.
Maybe if you then read the mobility scheme you would realise that it is a non profit organisation that uses the money from the DLA to provide the lease cars. I suspect that there is some government funding as there is charity status and also the scheme helps those wounded in war.
I suspect though that the amount is limited.0 -
I don't know whether it's the most cost effective way of doing things as it stands, that's why I think other options need to be considered even if not particularly popular. No politician probably wants to tell half a million people they can't have there new cars as often so its probably conveniently being forgotten. I agree this is only an element of whats being wasted/spent but as tax payers we have a right to know these things are being looked at and all results should be published. I want my taxes to be spent efficiently on the most needy people in society, I don't believe motability as it stands is actually doing this.
Do a google search and you will find that the mobility schemes results are published. The problem is that too many people read the daily mail headline etc and don't bother finding out the facts.
It got nothing to do with politicians as its a private non profit/charity. Any government grants etc can be taken away at any time if the government think the money is being wasted. There are many disabled charities which have lost or had funding cut by the government and the mobility scheme is probably no different.
Its strange that people don't seemed bothered that people get the mobility allowance but once they spend the money on a new car from a non profit/charity it becomes a problem.0 -
Maybe you should read the DLA requirements to get the higher rate mobility part as if you did you would understand that you the criteria is pretty strict.
Maybe if you then read the mobility scheme you would realise that it is a non profit organisation that uses the money from the DLA to provide the lease cars. I suspect that there is some government funding as there is charity status and also the scheme helps those wounded in war.
I suspect though that the amount is limited.
As I understand it nearly 2m people get it so I cant see it being that strict.0 -
As I understand it nearly 2m people get it so I cant see it being that strict.
The criteria is below
If you have mobility needs
To get the mobility component of Disability Living Allowance, your disability must be severe enough for you to have any of the following walking difficulties, even when wearing or using an aid or equipment you normally use:- because of a physical disability, you are unable or virtually unable to walk without severe discomfort, or at risk of endangering your life or causing deterioration in your health by making the effort to walk
- you have no feet or legs
- you are assessed to be both 100 per cent disabled because of loss of eyesight and not less than 80 per cent disabled because of deafness and you need someone with you when you are out of doors
- you are severely mentally impaired with severe behavioural problems and qualify for the highest rate of care component
- you need guidance or supervision most of the time from another person when walking out of doors in unfamiliar places
- you are certified as severely sight impaired by a consultant ophthalmologist, and you were aged between 3 and 64 on 11 April 2011; you must also have a best corrected visual acuity of less than 3/60, or you must have a best corrected visual acuity of 3/60 or more but less than 6/60 together with a complete loss of peripheral visual field and a central visual field of no more than ten degrees in total
Lower rate
If you need guidance or supervision out of doors.
Higher rate
If you have any of the other, more severe, walking difficulties.
You may be entitled to only the care component or only the mobility component, or you may be entitled to both.
Seems pretty strict to me as you need the higher rate to qualify for a mobility car0 -
The question, once again, should be why is top rate DLA so high?0
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