Will - excluding a child

onlyroz

Purbeck wrote: »

Ah, it seems my comment offended? It was not meant to at all. I spoke generally given a number of years genealogy research both for myself and numerous others. For example my gt gt uncle's youngest child was 'adopted' by his aunt on the death in childbirth of his mother, my gt gt grandfather (young widower after only a couple of years marriage ) married a widow who already had 3 children...then had 4 more.

I agree with this. My mum has been carrying out genealogy research and has uncovered a number of distinctly dodgy situations - e.g. people lying about their marriage date to cover up an illegitimate birth, and she found out about some half-sisters of her father that she (and he) didn't know existed.

Not completely the same situation, but my mum was recently agonising about whether to include my sister-in-law in her will in the instance that my brother predeceased them. She was advised by a solicitor to NOT include her, because things would get complicated if she subsequently remarried and had children by her second husband.

DUTR

EllaBeagle wrote: »

I never said THIS THREAD was about an innocent child. I also never said it was his fault for whatever went wrong, what I'm saying is there is not enough fight and it is selfish of him to dismiss the child.

The 'well in an ideal world' doesn't wash it is no excuse. If children do break a relationship why should they suffer for it??

I'm not bitter and twisted at all I'm giving my opinion!

Then post your opinion on the relevant thread, as this thread is about bequithing an estate or share of.

djdido2

Is there a relevant thread??? I can see how this thread has gone off topic because it does concern bequithing an estate and not ignoring your own flesh and blood kids etc. So, point taken.

Thanks for the heads up DUTR regarding my typing in capitals being construed as SHOUTING!!! (you learn something everyday on MSE lol). I am 40 weeks plus one day pregnant and my hormones are clouding my love of kids, regardless of age :-)

Welshwoofs

EllaBeagle wrote: »

How is it bitter and twisted?? Its what a father is supposed to do. If they are responsible enough to create a new life they should step up to the mark and be there for them!

How is it bitter and twisted? Well it'll be a pleasure to expand; let's consider the following quote from you:

I hope you can live with yourself because one day you might be alone, unable to dress/feed yourself and ironically this child may be the only person you have left! I hope to god this happens.

So in the total absence of any facts about the circumstances you:

a) Ask how the Op can live with him/herself
and
b) Express the wish that the Op ends up alone and unable to fend for him/herself


That is a display of bad manners and unpleasantness of herculean proportions frankly....given you know precisely F-All about the backstory to the Op's query.

ses6jwg

My daughter is 4, and I have a decent sized estate if I copped it tomorrow.

I do not get on with her mother.

I have a life insurance policy which I wrote into trust so my mother and/ or sister would be trustees until my daughter is 21.

However with regard to savings, what would happen to the money if I got hit by a bus tomorrow?

My daughter would be the sole beneficiary of the estate. But she is 4. Without a will, what would happen?

As far as I am concerned, I would not p!ss on her mother if she was on fire in the middle of street. I want my daughter to be provided for and not go without if I died, but at the same time I absolutely do not want my ex partner to have any control over how that money is spent.

Whats the legal situation?

DUTR

ses6jwg wrote: »

My daughter is 4, and I have a decent sized estate if I copped it tomorrow.

I do not get on with her mother.

I have a life insurance policy which I wrote into trust so my mother and/ or sister would be trustees until my daughter is 21.

However with regard to savings, what would happen to the money if I got hit by a bus tomorrow?

My daughter would be the sole beneficiary of the estate. But she is 4. Without a will, what would happen?

As far as I am concerned, I would not p!ss on her mother if she was on fire in the middle of street. I want my daughter to be provided for and not go without if I died, but at the same time I absolutely do not want my ex partner to have any control over how that money is spent.

Whats the legal situation?

You can get a last testament stement written up, your solictitor will direct you, unless you were married to the Mum, you have little to worry about.

ceridwen

EllaBeagle wrote: »

The mother AND father are supposed to discuss like adults what is best for the childs upbringing

Yep..THAT bit I agree with...ie the "mother and FATHER" are supposed to discuss. What they are supposed to discuss is whether a child gets conceived/carried through to birth in the first place. If the mother doesnt have these discussions with the father - then on her head be it when the child starts asking questions later about the "father".

What the women who go ahead and get pregnant/carry a child through to being born/bring it up on their own don't seem to consider is that that child might well turn round in adulthood and have figured out "how the land lies" and is going to have no very high opinion of a mother who went ahead and decided to have a child on her own and regardless of the fathers wishes. Some mothers will manage to convince that child to hold to their own viewpoint - but, then again, some won't....

Personally - I take a lot of comfort from knowing that my father wanted me and is pleased to have a daughter...and that is how a child (of any age) is entitled to be able to feel.

EDIT: ...and..yep...I've also watched more than one woman I know deliberately staging an "accidental pregnancy" and, on both occasions, they expected the poor man to "cough up" and help pay for that child they had decided to have ALL ON THEIR OWN...

oldtractor

re farming. my husband was left nothing when his parents died. the whole of the farm [value about 1 and 1/2 million] went to his brother. it was about keeping the farm intact. Sadly he'd done lots of work for 30 years or more at the farm to help his parents out and was even persuaded ,as a teenager, to put a small inheritance from a grandparent into the farm to update a building. He got nothing,all that work for all those years for nothing. Its wierds how some people think.

dzug1

ses6jwg wrote: »

My daughter is 4, and I have a decent sized estate if I copped it tomorrow.

I do not get on with her mother.

I have a life insurance policy which I wrote into trust so my mother and/ or sister would be trustees until my daughter is 21.

However with regard to savings, what would happen to the money if I got hit by a bus tomorrow?

My daughter would be the sole beneficiary of the estate. But she is 4. Without a will, what would happen?

As far as I am concerned, I would not p!ss on her mother if she was on fire in the middle of street. I want my daughter to be provided for and not go without if I died, but at the same time I absolutely do not want my ex partner to have any control over how that money is spent.

Whats the legal situation?

Without a will the mother (if you are still married) will inherit part of the estate (£250K). The rest will go 50% to your daughter and 50% into a life interest trust where the mother gets the interest and the daughter gets the capital when the mother dies.

If the marriage has been dissolved then your daughter will inherit all (assuming you have no other children). There may be some debate about who should be trustee until she is of age,

Best make a will

ses6jwg

dzug1 wrote: »

Without a will the mother (if you are still married) will inherit part of the estate (£250K). The rest will go 50% to your daughter and 50% into a life interest trust where the mother gets the interest and the daughter gets the capital when the mother dies.

If the marriage has been dissolved then your daughter will inherit all (assuming you have no other children). There may be some debate about who should be trustee until she is of age,

Best make a will

We were never married, but thanks for the info.