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Ex-Girlfriend won't return my TV

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  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    I don't know the law, but I can't imagine it's at all legal for you to enter her property by any means and remove things. I imagine you'd be done for trespassing. It's not necessarily the fact you took your TV, but the fact you have let yourself in when it would be clear to anybody you no longer have permission to enter the property. If you did do it and she called the police, make sure you have deniability as the last thing you want to do is get a criminal record, or a caution (are cautions shown on criminal record disclosures?).

    Saying that, i'd do exactly as recommended by everybody else. When you suspect she won't be home go in and get your property back. I'd also take a friend to witness you took nothing else -- however i'm not sure how credible they would be and could do done for aiding and betting?
  • Caroline_a
    Caroline_a Posts: 4,071 Forumite
    Just one point - is it a free-standing one, or is it on the wall on a bracket? If you remove a bracket from the wall, it will leave holes...
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Just go and get the sodding thing back!

    make sure she's out and then just get it. She can;t report it as stolen because you already have a letter from her saying she sold it!

    She;s going to report something she openly admits she sold as stolen!?!?!

    As well as having to admit what was effectively stolen goods in teh first place. However, she sounds stupid enough to do it.
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  • jb66
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    Lock her out and become a squatter
  • unholyangel
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    arcon5 wrote: »
    I don't know the law, but I can't imagine it's at all legal for you to enter her property by any means and remove things. I imagine you'd be done for trespassing. It's not necessarily the fact you took your TV, but the fact you have let yourself in when it would be clear to anybody you no longer have permission to enter the property. If you did do it and she called the police, make sure you have deniability as the last thing you want to do is get a criminal record, or a caution (are cautions shown on criminal record disclosures?).

    Saying that, i'd do exactly as recommended by everybody else. When you suspect she won't be home go in and get your property back. I'd also take a friend to witness you took nothing else -- however i'm not sure how credible they would be and could do done for aiding and betting?

    Trespassing is (for the most part) a civil matter, not a criminal one. As far as i remember, it only becomes criminal if there are other parts to it (such as breaking and entering).

    As for police not attending. I suppose it might depend on your area. But they will do it here - especially if there is the possibility of violence. However, if OP has been given a crime reference number......have the police been round to her property to interview her? Might be worthwhile asking if they have done so and if they have, was your tv still there.
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  • Zandoni
    Zandoni Posts: 3,465 Forumite
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    Go and get it before she throws a brick at the screen..
  • arcon5
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    Maybe he'd be done for attempted burglary or somthing rather than tresspassing.
  • visidigi
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    arcon5 wrote: »
    Maybe he'd be done for attempted burglary or somthing rather than tresspassing.

    How?

    The man's got a key! He can't be done for burgulary - she can't prove its hers, he can prove its his.

    She would know he has a key, therefore she should change the locks if she wants to remove the possibility.
  • arcon5
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    edited 17 November 2011 at 9:40PM
    visidigi wrote: »
    How?

    The man's got a key! He can't be done for burgulary - she can't prove its hers, he can prove its his.

    She would know he has a key, therefore she should change the locks if she wants to remove the possibility.

    Just because he has a key doesn't mean he still has the right to enter the property. Nor should she have to go to the expense of changing the locks, which brigns forth the question why does op still have a key?

    If somebody finds a set of keys in the street and you arrive home to find them in your house, if you called the police, do you seriously think they're going to turn around and say 'sorry, it's a civil matter because he had a key?'. (unless ofcourse their claimign squatters rights)

    The issue isn't about op recovering his TV, it's about him entering into her property without permission to recover his property.
  • halibut2209
    halibut2209 Posts: 4,250 Forumite
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    Whether he has the right to enter the house depends on who owns the house/tenancy agreement. He could well be charged with Trespass, but that's it. The best bet is to go through the courts. Send her a LBA demanding either the television in the same condition as when you left, or the full remaining balance from when you left. If she doesn't comply, file through moneyclaim.
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