E-Petition on overcrowding hits 100K

olly300

Going4TheDream wrote: »

His party was in power when he said this......

Perhaps its as good to read a 'wide' range of publications of all persuasions ... you only have to look at unemployment figures by recent governments of all flavours over the years and the way that they have been conveniently 'massaged'

I cant help but feel this would perhaps not be any different?

After all as any good accountant/statistician knows you can make figures show what you want them to show with a little creativity

The governmental figures come from the Office of National Statistics. They don't like any government trying to interfere with their work like the last Labour government attempted in it's dying days.

When designing questions for others to collect the results you have to design them for the lowest level of intelligence and they have to be quick to answer, which is why you tend to get lots of tick box questions on questionnaires gathering your data.

Also newspaper journalists and politicians tend to ignore the margin of error and any other criteria the ONS state that would distort the statistics when writing stories from the complied ONS statistics.

Going4TheDream

olly300 wrote: »

The governmental figures come from the Office of National Statistics. They don't like any government trying to interfere with their work like the last Labour government attempted in it's dying days.

When designing questions for others to collect the results you have to design them for the lowest level of intelligence and they have to be quick to answer, which is why you tend to get lots of tick box questions on questionnaires gathering your data.

Also newspaper journalists and politicians tend to ignore the margin of error and any other criteria the ONS state that would distort the statistics when writing stories from the complied ONS statistics.

Thank you, that does make sense - perhaps I should be less cynical!

A._Badger

StevieJ wrote: »

Ignorance or not I think I would prefer some public information from the Govt for the masses rather than education by the Express,Telegraph and Mail and oh yes and opposition point scoring

That would be as opposed to education via the BBC, Guardian and the Independent, would it?

Biased rubbish comes in many flavours.

StevieJ

Going4TheDream wrote: »

His party was in power when he said this......

Yes sorry, makes you wonder why they opened the doors to all and sundry when most of the EU were far more circumspect.

StevieJ

A._Badger wrote: »

That would be as opposed to education via the BBC, Guardian and the Independent, would it?

Biased rubbish comes in many flavours.

Glad you finally acknowledge that

olly300

A._Badger wrote: »

That would be as opposed to education via the BBC, Guardian and the Independent, would it?

Biased rubbish comes in many flavours.

Worse than that is that on some stories they all write the same rubbish.

I suppose you could blame the news agencies and the fact that journalists often edit news briefings given to them by interested parties including politicians.

darkpool

in my opinion the BNP's immigration policy (see below) is the most sensible. the tories and labour talk tough on immigration, but they don't deliver.

- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;
- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;
- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;
- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.

leveller2911

darkpool wrote: »

in my opinion the BNP's immigration policy (see below) is the most sensible. the tories and labour talk tough on immigration, but they don't deliver.

- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;
- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;
- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;
- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.

Where are they going to deport these 2 Million illegals too? you need a passport for one thing ,which is usually destroyed as soon as they get here.

"Deport all those who commit crime" yep I'm up for that one.

Reject all asylum seekers who passed through safe countries on their way to Britain" Yep I'm all for that one too but theres just a small matter of a passport and without one they can't be deported once here.

The rest is total rubbish I'm afraid and the BNP are dead n buried.Luckily;)


PS :I agree with you that Labour and the Tories both talk tough and do little or nothing to address the problem. In Hastings recently a vicar was found guilty of carrying out over 350 sham marriages between Eastern European women and African men. The Government at the time and Border agency claimed they would track down and deport all of those and yet over a year later they have deported 9....

The pathetic actions taken by Government along with the lipservice of acting tough just feeds the flames IMO..........

darkpool

leveller2911 wrote: »

Where are they going to deport these 2 Million illegals too? you need a passport for one thing ,which is usually destroyed as soon as they get here.

australia just keep their asylum seekers in an island in the middle of nowhere. i'm sure we could do a deal with an african country to look after them. just have big camps and a meal a day.

i honestly think the immigration problem would disappear if we stopped giving them benefits/ houses/ healthcare etc.

olly300

darkpool wrote: »

australia just keep their asylum seekers in an island in the middle of nowhere. i'm sure we could do a deal with an african country to look after them. just have big camps and a meal a day.

i honestly think the immigration problem would disappear if we stopped giving them benefits/ houses/ healthcare etc.

I think you will find that illegal immigrants don't claim anything of the state as they are too afraid of being caught.

There is nothing stopping us changing our benefit rules but then the rules need to be fair and equal to both British nationals and those who are from the EU.