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"London housing benefit claimant numbers soaring..." - The Guardian
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Epic Fail.
I'm an economically right of centre, small state advocating, Conservative voter with socially Libertarian views.
In terms of political philosophy I'm somewhere between Maggie Thatcher and Ayn Rand.
How the hell did you get Marxist socialist from that???
Your "Marxist" tag has to be one of the stupidest comments on this board of all time.
No you're not.
I can post on here that I'm a raving Trot and Frankfurt School supporter.
But, actually that doesn't make me one of those.0 -
No it hasn't you smug !!!!!!. It is current legislation.
Do you think polygamy is okay? Do you think that claiming benefit for 4 wives and umpteen children is okay?
Do you think that it is funny that people rape the benefit system that haven't paid a penny into it? :mad::mad::mad::mad:
From your example it wasn't a change of law it was a new ruling which can be changed any time, so why the emphasis on NU Labour when those hypocrites in the Tory party have apparently not made a new ruling. BTW the Wail was putting the maximum cost of the change in policy at £10 million (most probably a lot less).New guidelines on income support
the decision by ministers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512043/Muslim-husbands-wife-extra-benefits-ministers-recognise-polygamy.htmlA DWP spokesman said: 'There are fewer than 1,000 polygamous marriages in the UK and only a small percentage of these are claiming social security benefit.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
From your example it wasn't a change of law it was a new ruling which can be changed any time, so why the emphasis on NU Labour when those hypocrites in the Tory party have apparently not made a new ruling. BTW the Wail was putting the maximum cost of the change in policy at £10 million (most probably a lot less).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512043/Muslim-husbands-wife-extra-benefits-ministers-recognise-polygamy.html
Wouldn't that, even if true, be £10 million pound too much? Or are you saying it's just small change?0 -
From your example it wasn't a change of law it was a new ruling which can be changed any time, so why the emphasis on NU Labour
A new ruling? No, it was a change in the law. Rulings don't allow a change in the law.
Why the emphasis on NuLabour, erm..., because they were the government at the time and they were the ones that changed the law?
Is that okay? Does that seem relevant, or would you like to blame the Tories for something that NuLabour did?
I'm not really a supporter of the Tories, but I do like the way that you try to shift the blame away from NuLabour.0 -
You may not be a marxist or any other kind of leftie, but as a BTL owner
Epic Fail number two for the thread.
I don't own, and have never owned, a BTL property.
I'm philosophically quite happy to own one.
Indeed I may well buy one soon enough given the inevitable trajectory of rental returns in the UK thanks to the crash and mortgage rationing destroying any chance we have of fixing the housing shortage.
But I do not currently.you sure do have a vested interest in there being a population expansion, don't you?
I have a vested interest in advocating policies that prevent the inverting of the demographic pyramid in the UK.
As does every sane person in the land.
For the avoidance of doubt this means we cannot as a nation, or an economy, afford for there to be 3 retired people for every worker. Versus the current state of 3 workers for every retired person.
Such a result would lead to catastrophic consequences, and would be the inevitable result of a stable or falling population.
Where the politicians have failed in the worst possible way, is in failing to make the ignorant masses understand this simple economic fact.
Paying lip-service to the anti-immigrant, Daily Mail reading, economically illiterate, Xenophobes and Racists is the single biggest mistake successive governments have made in the UK.
Which is not to say population must increase forever.
But it will take many decades to re-balance the situation such that population stability can even be considered as a viable policy option.
And that, above all else, is why politicians will lie to the morons who believe immigration is bad, and will continue lying to them all the way through 70 million, and perhaps even 80 million.Well done. :T
Quite.:cool:“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Stick to house prices Hamish.
Your one vote is outnumbered by the thousands of DM readers thankfully.0 -
Stick to house prices Hamish.
Your one vote is outnumbered by the thousands of DM readers thankfully.
And equally thankfully, the Daily Mail readers will continue voting for politicians that lie to them.
Faking concern about immigration to appease the foolish whilst knowing full well there's not a damn thing they have any intention of doing about it.
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Stick to house prices Hamish.
Your one vote is outnumbered by the thousands of DM readers thankfully.
Luckily for Hamish, and the rest of us who were taught in the last century about the demographic time bomb in the UK, politicians that actually get in power realise they can't tinker with things too much.
So in fact they actually pay lip service to the likes of you and DM readers about immigration.
BTW the problem with housing is caused mostly by NIMBY's Though stupid government policy of not giving new housing estates proper transport links, schools etc doesn't help.I'm not cynical I'm realistic
(If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)0 -
I don't care what people say on here (e.g. both parents were bog cleaners but could still afford to buy a four bed roomed house in Chelsea when they were 18 years old) it has been expensive to buy in London since Adam was a lad.
I have to agree in 1972 I live just inside M25 or would have if it existed then, worked in outer London had a reasonable wage above average and had to move 20 miles further out to be able to buy.0 -
Why is it lucky for Hamish that politicians won't fix issues? Both Hamish and Olly have said it?0
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