Osborne looks to slash benefits bill

RenovationMan

Going4TheDream wrote: »

ADHD perhaps?

http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/waste/2011/10/adhd-motability-scheme-exposes.html

Actually, that's a disorder not a syndrome but I'm splitting hairs. Let's look at the facts about ADHS claimants. The Daily Mail claimed 3200 claimants with ADHD. Have a read of this article from 'FactCheck "Promoting accuracy in public debate":-

http://fullfact.org/factchecks/disability_benefits_motability_ADHD_Mail-3025

"There are 39,500 people receiving the mobility component of DLA for whom ADHD - referred to by the DWP as Hyperkinetic Syndrome (HS) - is their main disabling condition.

Of these however, only 100 are in the Higher Mobility Component of the DLA and therefore eligible for the Motability scheme.

This would seem to wholly refute the claim that there are 3,200 people with ADHD/HS who use the Motability Car Scheme. It should also be noted that these figures have been rounded to the nearest hundred, so the figure may be even lower."

RenovationMan

OptionARMAGEDDON wrote: »

If an individual cant be trusted on a street due to poor situational awareness, dont put them around moving traffic or keep them at home, its that simple really isnt it? I still dont see why this should entitle someone to a free car.

You seen to have fallen for the rubbish that Daily Mail dresses up as news.

"However these are not the only problems with the Mail's analysis. Elsewhere in the article it is stated that:

"According to advice on a Government website, [eligibility criteria] would include ‘physical problems when walking out of doors’ and ‘needing someone with them when out of doors in unfamiliar places'."

However this appears to be a description of the Lower Mobility Component. The Motability Car Scheme is only open to those in the Higher Mobility Component of the DLA. According to the Direct Gov website a child must be unable or virtually unable to walk in order to qualify for this category."

http://fullfact.org/factchecks/disability_benefits_motability_ADHD_Mail-3025

Jennifer_Jane

dori2o wrote: »

BUT NOT ALL OF THEM GET CARS. That is the whole point. Only those with the most severe traits of the disorder get cars.

Everyone in this world is entitled to the same opportunities as everyone else. In a civilised world everyone is afforded the help that is needed to provide them with those opportunities. Surely you want to live in a civilised world?

'Everyone in this world' - Ok, then we should take a look at this 'world' and I think to get a fairer world a lot of the UK's benefits will have to be stripped away. I've spent most of my life living abroad and I was astonished that people could get brand new cars every 3 years here.

Of course, we all want to live in a civilised world where the most vulnerable, the disabled, the aged, and the poorest are looked after - but it seems to me that many benefits are disproportionate to what many people are able to afford. I was lucky to be able to 'scrap' my 13 year old Micra for a new car which I will now have for another 15 years or so. In a fair world, why shouldn't I get a brand new car every three years? (Or anyone else too?).

RenovationMan

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

In a fair world, why shouldn't I get a brand new car every three years? (Or anyone else too?).

You can, you can work for several years in industry to build up your experience and salary. If you apply yourself and work hard and work long hours you'll hopefully be able to progress in your chosen career and be able to afford the cost of a new car each year via one of the leasing HP schemes operated by most car dealers. You might even reach the point where you earn enough to have a new car every 3 years and have children too. If you manage that, please tell me how .

Everything is in your own hands. What's stopping you if this is your dream?

Get-real-buy-real

The cuts to benefits being talked about are looking more likely every day.

There is no doubt that the huge benefits being paid to so many families in London is propping up rents and house prices.

Its not a question of 'if' but 'when' these props are taken out, then prices will come down.

TrixieB

OptionARMAGEDDON wrote: »

Dont take her out then.



Unfortunately, mother nature dictates if you run out in front of cars, you are going to rather rapidly going to remove ones-self from the genepool. Why that is a taxpayer or state problem, I cant really see.

You truly are a despicable piece of **** :mad: I have come across some pig ignorant, rude, lacking in compassion posters in my time here but this is just disgusting talking about an MSE'ers child like this.

You should be ashamed.

But probably won't be.

This place is getting worse

Jennifer_Jane

RenovationMan wrote: »

You can, you can work for several years in industry to build up your experience and salary. If you apply yourself and work hard and work long hours you'll hopefully be able to progress in your chosen career and be able to afford the cost of a new car each year via one of the leasing HP schemes operated by most car dealers. You might even reach the point where you earn enough to have a new car every 3 years and have children too. If you manage that, please tell me how .

Everything is in your own hands. What's stopping you if this is your dream?[/QUOTE]

I'm 65 .

Jimmy_31

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

RenovationMan wrote: »

You can, you can work for several years in industry to build up your experience and salary. If you apply yourself and work hard and work long hours you'll hopefully be able to progress in your chosen career and be able to afford the cost of a new car each year via one of the leasing HP schemes operated by most car dealers. You might even reach the point where you earn enough to have a new car every 3 years and have children too. If you manage that, please tell me how .

Everything is in your own hands. What's stopping you if this is your dream?[/QUOTE]

I'm 65 .

Come on, our life expectancy is around 187 according to the government.

You are only just getting started;)

sjaypink

So is this in addition to this universal credit thing? Or in the interim?

I've lost track of all recently.... what are the proposed figures for this UC then, anyone know?

OptionARMAGEDDON

Hopefully about 50p.