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Morons this morning with fog lights on

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  • Strider590 wrote: »
    4x4's simply should not have them fitted.

    Why's that?
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    I often see decrepit (sorry, did I say very old?) drivers with all the lights on. The idea seems to be that since they are barely in control, if their vehicle looks like a christmas tree, you will be able to avoid them. Somehow, any danger is your fault.
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  • DCFC79
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    Strider590 wrote: »
    Fortunately now a days, most cars reset the fog lights when the ignition is turned off, thus negating the pillocks who forget to turn them off manually.

    There are very few drivers who keep the fog lights on deliberately, the most annoying are those who are so f*cking stupid they they're still using them in the middle of summer.

    Had to thank you for the pillock comment and the last part as ive witnessed both.
  • bigjl.
    bigjl. Posts: 232 Forumite
    derrick wrote: »
    About time the police got proactive about this and prosecuted the morons who use them without reason, after all it is an offence:-
    Rule 236

    You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.

    [Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]

    And they should prosecute the ones who will not use dipped headlights in bad visibility, either using sidelights or no lights, so called "professional" HGV drivers being the worst culprits, again it is an offence.

    Rule 226

    You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).

    [Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]



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    You can always rely on derrick for some interesting cut and paste.

    Well done on another stunning post.:T
  • reeac
    reeac Posts: 1,430 Forumite
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    Front fog lights had a purpose in the days before the UK adopted the sharp cut-off dipped beam as used on the Continent which was in the early 1970s, I recall. With the older "fuzzy" dipped beam scattered back reflection was a real problem and also dense fogs were more frequent. I can't recall any occasion when I've found that front fogs have been any advantage over modern sharp cut-off dipped beams. As for rear fogs, I agree with an earlier poster that they detract from the visibility of brake lights and make the perpetrator MORE liable to receive a rear end shunt.
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    The whole point of fog lights is that they illuminate underneath the fog, they should not cause ANY visual impairment to other drivers at all......... (Unless your in a Kitcar sitting less than 5 inches from the ground).


    Front fogs don't dip.

    So for oncoming traffic they are a distraction.

    Underneath the fog ??? What ...Designed to combat the old floating fog. :rotfl:
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    globalds wrote: »
    Front fogs don't dip.

    So for oncoming traffic they are a distraction.

    Underneath the fog ??? What ...Designed to combat the old floating fog. :rotfl:

    Fog density is lower close to the ground, the fog lights are designed such that they illuminate lower down and minimize the light reflected back toward the driver.

    But for foglights to be truly effective the visible wavelength of the light needs to be as long as possible.
    Red is the longest visible, but it's illegal to have red lights on the front of a car in the UK.
    Yellow is the best compromise, but im not sure if that's also illegal in the UK?
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  • Lum
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    Yellow is legal in the UK as far as I'm aware

    Certainly I've never been pulled for mine, and it's pretty obvious they're yellow even when they're off as they have yellow filters over the bulbs. Then again I've only ever actually used mine in situations where it's unlikely there's any coppers about.
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    Fog density is lower close to the ground,


    Your just making stuff up now.

    Best you stop because it is making you look foolish.

    Here you go Fog .
    Fog is a collection of water droplets or ice crystals suspended in the air at or near the Earth's surface
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    globalds wrote: »
    Your just making stuff up now.

    Best you stop because it is making you look foolish.

    Here you go Fog .

    You need to read more of your reference material.....
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