buymobilephones.net - contract with free gift

keith1950

I feel sorry for the OP of this thread. Legitimate question and they have had their thread well and truly hijacked.....

Sorry, in answer to the OP , if they are happy with the deal then they should have no problems with buymobilephones.net.

The deal will cost £31x24= £744
Laptop worth about £330
Mobile worth about £120

So you are paying around £284 for the tariff which is around £12/month.

The thing to bear in mind is that if this mobile was bought directly from o2 then all the money that would provide for the laptop is just pocketed by the network.

mobilejunkie

Latecomer:- "Provided thats true then they must be paying out less in claims that they make in unpaid claims so they would pay out in less than 50% of claims to make it sustainable."

Well, in my case they don't try THAT hard. I have 8 of these running and ride shotgun over 8 more for other people. That has been typical for several years and it's rare to have to do anything more than send the correct claim in at the correct time. There is such a thing as a loss leader - supermarkets use those widely and have done for years. They have no intention of refusing a sale on those items even though they will take a hit. As Keith1950 attempted to also explain, they make a lot more on everything else.

The same dealers are offering cashback by redemtpion, auto cashback and "free" gifts". If you believe they are honest why would their redemption payments be unreliable? If you believe they aren't then that must apply to the other types of offers as well. There are also quite a few examples where people have not had a "reliable" delivery of their free gift either.

The fact is I (and others doing cashback deals for anyone else) are not making money out of their relatives but out of the dealer. My "relatives" (most aren't) atre saving a packet on a regular basis with my assistance and I also help a lot of people on here without any return. I would have thought that was the whole point of a consumer website.

grumbler

latecomer wrote: »

Completely groundless

Thank you for admitting this

but has to be true to some extent. the amount paid out on the autocashback will be less than the commission

Correct, but the key question is how much less.

(presuming the phone comes from the network provider) otherwise they would be losing money.

Wrong presumption I think, but this doesn't make much difference as the commission can cover both the phone and the autocashback.

so if the redemption deals are offering more money back than the auto cashback deals then these must be running at a loss if every claim is successful,

I don't see any logic behind this statement. Both the autocashback and the redemption cashback can be smaller than commission. The redemption cashback is higher because the demand is smaller and because some people (not necessarily majority) fail to claim it.

Provided thats true then they must be paying out less in claims that they make in unpaid claims so they would pay out in less than 50% of claims to make it sustainable.

Your logic keeps failing you.

mobilejunkie

If I come back to the OP's deal, I could get the same phone with a 100 minutes a month, 1,000 texts and 1GB bundle costing about £60 after cashback. I could also get a cashback contract where I could get a bundle with more minutes if needbe, sell the phone and actually make a profit - that is without the cashback for ordering it. Given my knowledge and experience I would have no hesitation in using cashback for two contracts - I do it all the time anyway. However, I still agree that redemption deals shouldn't be taken lightly - otherwise the "unreliability" might well materialise. I also wouldn't take any of my people to this dealer for a redemption deal (nothing much to do with their "honesty", but for other reasons). Seems pretty easy to work out that this deal will cost an awful lot of money for a (probably) cheap laptop! Oh, yes; it is also twice the tie-in period as the deal I have found.

latecomer

Perhaps I'm seriously underestimating the amount of money the networks pay in commission to these 3rd parties.

I've just looked at one of the sites which used to do a lot of the big redemption deals and note that there are a lot less of the high percentage redemption deals (i.e. 17/18, 11/12 etc) around than last time I actively looked. I also hadn't considered they would be loss-leaders, only that they were loss making.


With regards to the OP question again - while it might not be the best value. If its the same money as they would be paying for just the contract direct with the network then its got to be better.

mobilejunkie

It's because we've been so successful with cashback deals and the regulations from above have made them easier that there are worse deals than before. Hwoever, there are plenty to be found if you know where to look. I recently grabbed a Galaxy Apollo which will cost just £36 - and sold a lesser phone for much more than that as this was the better replacement.

Since we don't know what the bundle is we can't tell, but I really doubt the network couldn't do better on price than a deal via a third party offering a "free" gift. Usually there are better deals than the ones people stumble across - especially if they do use cashback. In order to use cashback though they really do need to do a lot of research and understand the process from day one. One of the dealers would have lost ALL my cashback for me on day 1 - literally - had I not followed my own groundrules. Since then they've been fine - but I wouldn't recommend them to the unwary.

This particualr dealer has paid people (including me once) late more than once during 2011 - and they already allow themselves an age to actually cough up the money under their t&c. I believe if the OP cares to search for the main thread(s) on this dealer they will find a variety of experiences with "free" gifts. As usual, there is no substitute for proper and thorough research. Asking questions on here won't give as comprehensive or accurate information - and will often be based on opinions rather than direct experiences. In the case of this dealer, there is a volume of well recorded experiences, mainly good but also bad.

StevenDavis_2

Hi,

This thread has finally pushed me into registering in the forums.
But i just wanted to say that i have had no problems with this company at all. I ordered a mobile contract on Saturday. Phone arrived today along with my free 3ds console. I am very happy.
Only constructive criticism of the service is that it would have been nice to know my new mobile number before it arrived. but that's just me nit picking.

Recommended company and defiantly not a scam. :beer:

smilelols

evening everyone
I've just found the buymobilephones.net site and I wanted to check out people's experiances of it before going through with a deal from them.
Its a cash back deal (and i know from here you have to be really careful about following t+c to get the cash back), but my concerns are more around their customer service if something goes wrong with the phone.
Would anyone be able to tell me about their experainces (good or bad)?
Thanks

grumbler

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