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Gaddafi's demise

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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Wheezy wrote: »
    Have to disagree there. :)
    Turkey would probably be in the EU if it didn't have such an appaling human rights record.
    Also the fact it invaded and illegally occupies part of another EU member state (Northern Cyprus) is not really helping their case for EU membership.
    As for NATO, AFAIK, Turkey was included due to its strategic location at the southwest border of the old USSR and proximity to the Middle East.

    Ok I take the rest of it as a different POV but I think you're wrong to think of NATO as an exclusive club that any country bordering the Middle East is clamouring to get in to.

    Turkey is a member of NATO because NATO wants Turkey and Turkey wants NATO. During the cold war Iran and Egypt would also have been highly significant politically and strategically. Neither are NATO members nor want to be AIUI.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    KnightSmile wrote: »
    Why do some people insinuate Jewish people rule the world? I'm not saying its explicitly stated here but I have read it on other discussion boards. I genuinely dont understand where this comes from? I really don't have a strong opinion on this but I hate generalisations on whole races. Interested if someone could actually educate me, I am sceptical that Jewish people "rule the world".

    My OH's membership card of the International Zionist Conspiracy hasn't arrived yet, so it can't be that efficient.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    then there's the depressing blood libel, still alive and kicking in parts of the Middle East. But hey! We got there first! England started it, with Little St Hugh of Lincoln.

    http://www.webhistoryofengland.com/?s=blood+libel
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    then there's the depressing blood libel, still alive and kicking in parts of the Middle East. But hey! We got there first! England started it, with Little St Hugh of Lincoln.

    http://www.webhistoryofengland.com/?s=blood+libel

    Go England. Leading the world in !!!!!!!ry since the C12th.

    Inventors also of the concentration camp and gassing the Kurds.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    sabretoothtigger wrote: »
    Libya has more money then they do order. A trial may have spent money but helped restore order

    I think a show trial might also have run the risk of allowing a pro-Gaddafi faction to gain momentum and to get in the way of 'progress'

    I think the NATO interpretation of the UN resolution was extremely suspect, but the deed is now done, and the new Libya should be given the best possible chance to succeed

    Possibly it would be more appropriate to refer the NATO bombardment to the War Crimes people....

    There's nothing fair in love or war (to quote my old Mum, bless her cotton socks xx)

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Go England. Leading the world in !!!!!!!ry since the C12th.

    Inventors also of the concentration camp and gassing the Kurds.


    We certainly didn't invent concentration camps - there were similar bodies in the 18th century, and the word itself comes from the "reconcentrados" that the Spanish set up in Cuba in the 1860s.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    neverdespairgirl wrote: »
    We certainly didn't invent concentration camps - there were similar bodies in the 18th century, and the word itself comes from the "reconcentrados" that the Spanish set up in Cuba in the 1860s.

    Well you live and learn. Mine was a favourite story of the History students at uni: the British started Concentration Camps in the Boer War.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Go England. Leading the world in !!!!!!!ry since the C12th.

    Inventors also of the concentration camp and gassing the Kurds.

    Err, not quite. And if any gas was used, it was tear gas.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_British_use_of_gas_in_Mesopotamia_in_1920
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    Did vax ever come back and clarify who he meant when he used the term 'money-lenders'?

    Perhaps he meant the reptilians so beloved of smeagold, David Icke and associated New World Order nutters, who claim the reptilians run governments and finance houses - you know the types, the Rothschilds, Greenspans . . oh, wait.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Well you live and learn. Mine was a favourite story of the History students at uni: the British started Concentration Camps in the Boer War.


    Sorry (-:

    The British did use them in teh Boer War, but they were following a trend, not starting one.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
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