Nimby's... I hate them

homelessskilledworker

ILW wrote: »

If you are on above average wage, you can buy a house. Just may not be in your ideal location.

OK ILW, I am willing to do that, but lets work on a deal here mate, so here is what I am willing to do.

Right now I have to travel between 50 miles and 100 miles to work there and back every day just to live in the only RENTED I can afford. But I am willing to travel between 100 and 200 miles there and back to work, live in less than average accomodation within reason, and within reason I am suggesting I would like to live close on par with some of the muti fathered Mothers I know of who have never worked a day in their lives and who have their part time dads pop over once in a while to beter homes than me.

And here is what I ask off of you..

I would like to see a proper housing market and economy using proper market forces. What I mean by that is that I would like to see those living in their "own homes" who cannot pay their Bills and who cannot pay their mortgage to stop playing the victim on BBC local news on how life is so tough for them and have them pressured into selling their homes in order to release equity so they can pay their Bills and probably rent in many cases for a god number of years.

Fair deal?

RenovationMan

DervProf wrote: »

I am aware of the practice of crop rotation etc. I am also aware of large areas of farmland that is being used for (wealthy) city folk to keep their horses on. I know of one or two large fields that I`ve not seen produce any crop/meat in many a year. One of these fields has had one or two annual gatherings take place upon it, and another gets used for motocross events once or twice a year.

Oh well, in that case let's get the field concreted over.

ILW

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

OK ILW, I am willing to do that, but lets work on a deal here mate, so here is what I am willing to do.

Right now I have to travel between 50 miles and 100 miles to work there and back every day just to live in the only RENTED I can afford. But I am willing to travel between 100 and 200 miles there and back to work, live in less than average accomodation within reason, and within reason I am suggesting I would like to live close on par with some of the muti fathered Mothers I know of who have never worked a day in their lives and who have their part time dads pop over once in a while to beter homes than me.

And here is what I ask off of you..

I would like to see a proper housing market and economy using proper market forces. What I mean by that is that I would like to see those living in their "own homes" who cannot pay their Bills and who cannot pay their mortgage to stop playing the victim on BBC local news on how life is so tough for them and have them pressured into selling their homes in order to release equity so they can pay their Bills and probably rent in many cases for a god number of years.

Fair deal?

The apparent difference between full time benefit "professionals" and working people is another matter (and I agree with you), but if you are earning above everage wage you should be able to get a £100k mortgage. Apart from bits of the South East you can buy a house for that.

DervProf

RenovationMan wrote: »

Oh well, in that case let's get the field concreted over.

I think you mentioned population control earlier. That's a suggestion that I certainly agree with (and one that i have mentioned several times before). I'm not saying that I think we should build on every available green patch, but it seems to me that a combination of population control and building more homes would be a good idea. Rather than idly sitting back and enjoying the "glow" of property shortages and HPI, why don't we try and make life more pleasant for more people ?

ILW

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

OK ILW, I am willing to do that, but lets work on a deal here mate, so here is what I am willing to do.

Right now I have to travel between 50 miles and 100 miles to work there and back every day just to live in the only RENTED I can afford. But I am willing to travel between 100 and 200 miles there and back to work, live in less than average accomodation within reason, and within reason I am suggesting I would like to live close on par with some of the muti fathered Mothers I know of who have never worked a day in their lives and who have their part time dads pop over once in a while to beter homes than me.

And here is what I ask off of you..

I would like to see a proper housing market and economy using proper market forces. What I mean by that is that I would like to see those living in their "own homes" who cannot pay their Bills and who cannot pay their mortgage to stop playing the victim on BBC local news on how life is so tough for them and have them pressured into selling their homes in order to release equity so they can pay their Bills and probably rent in many cases for a god number of years.

Fair deal?

So it appears you are not saying that you cannot buy a house then. Just that you think others should not have houses. Not sure what you are getting at.

Jimmy_31

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

Yes, that would be poetic justice for many of these stuck up Gits who stick their noses up at decent working people.:)

Just another point about this Dale Farm debacle though, myself and most of the people I know were disgusted at the waste of money used to clear these not very nice(and dishonest) people out.

But then I had a very slight sofening of attitude, like most people bad or good they want somewhere to live. I was driving on a 25 mile trip to work at the time and was lucky to drive through lovely British Countryside and I thought...

All I personally wanted was just a tiny tiny segment of land in my own country that was in fron of me as I drove to call my own. My circumstances were that I have served my country in the forces, I have always worked and paid taxes(over 20 years now), and I now had a skilled job that paid me a fair bit more than the average wage. If I was not good enough to own a slice of my ancestral land then how hard is it for most people these days.
I want to know who it is at the top that is making the decisions of who can have what land, my conclusion so far is that it is people like the Nimbys that we are talking about now.

Just claim a bit of land for yourself, thats what the first landowners did.

I can see people doing this if the government dont stop letting thousands of people into this country and funding the benefit baby farms to fill up the few new houses built.

Seeing as the government bailed out lloyds with taxpayers money then i think its only right the taxpayer should get a plot of the massive landbanks lloyds are sat on.

RenovationMan

DervProf wrote: »

I think you mentioned population control earlier. That's a suggestion that I certainly agree with (and one that i have mentioned several times before). I'm not saying that I think we should build on every available green patch, but it seems to me that a combination of population control and building more homes would be a good idea. Rather than idly sitting back and enjoying the "glow" of property shortages and HPI, why don't we try and make life more pleasant for more people ?

Exactly what I said, but I guess it does bare repeating as it is such sense. As I remaked earlier we have plenty of brownfield sites, disused industrial and office blocks and small apartment blocks that could be made larger in all of our cities. The reduced commuting times and distances will also help financially and socially and will cut CO2 emmissions and reduce our reliance on imported petrol.

RenovationMan

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Just claim a bit of land for yourself, thats what the first landowners did.

Isn't this what happened with that Dale Farm travellers site?

wotsthat

RenovationMan wrote: »

Isn't this what happened with that Dale Farm travellers site?

Yes it is. Somehow I think Jimmy only believes in land grabbing if he gets some though.

Crash_Over

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

Right now I have to travel between 50 miles and 100 miles to work there and back every day just to live in the only RENTED I can afford.

So, why choose the username homelessskilledworker.

We all thought you were posting from a park bench.