Which way around should it be?

balletshoes

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Unless the school is breaking the law, then there will be an act of collective worship which must be broadly Christian in nature.

It is a statutory requirement unless you apply for a special exemption (usually because the intake is overwhelmingly of another faith).

my DD's school is a bog-standard large city primary school, not affiliated to any church or faith. There is definitely no act of collective worship on a daily, or even weekly, basis at her school. In all the 6 years she's attended that school, there has been no daily or weekly collective act of worship.

dirtysexymonkey

Torry_Quine wrote: »

If you're willing to pay for satellite or cable I presume as I certainly haven't seen it.

http://www.christiantv.org.uk/

try that. you can watch all day long and not try and force the rest of us to watch it too.

milliebear00001

balletshoes wrote: »

my DD's school is a bog-standard large city primary school, not affiliated to any church or faith. There is definitely no act of collective worship on a daily, or even weekly, basis at her school. In all the 6 years she's attended that school, there has been no daily or weekly collective act of worship.

Then they are breaking the law. Although I'm guessing nobody much cares!

balletshoes

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Then they are breaking the law. Although I'm guessing nobody much cares!

:cool: I guess not - I wasn't aware it was even a guideline, much less a requirement!

Spendless

balletshoes wrote: »

my DD's school is a bog-standard large city primary school, not affiliated to any church or faith. There is definitely no act of collective worship on a daily, or even weekly, basis at her school. In all the 6 years she's attended that school, there has been no daily or weekly collective act of worship.

What happens in assemblies? Do they sing hymns? Mine don't attend a church school but it has a history connected to the church, as in when the original village was here, mentioned in the doomsday book, schooling originally was in the rectory, later becoming a very small CofE school still in church grounds, when a factory based itself here and built houses for the workers, a larger school was needed and at that point it become a community (non-faith) school. As such my kids still have Assemblies similar to when I was a kid, with hymns mixed with more seasonal songs and Bible stories.

balletshoes

Spendless wrote: »

What happens in assemblies? Do they sing hymns? Mine don't attend a church school but it has a history connected to the church, as in when the original village was here, mentioned in the doomsday book, schooling originally was in the rectory, later becoming a very small CofE school still in church grounds, when a factory based itself here and built houses for the workers, a larger school was needed and at that point it become a community (non-faith) school. As such my kids still have Assemblies similar to when I was a kid, with hymns mixed with more seasonal songs and Bible stories.

nothing like that at all - they sing songs, recite poetry, do narrations/little plays about which topics they're studying that term in class. There is never a minister/religious leader at their assemblies. They do RE, but those lessons are topic-based too (ie comparison between 2 popular faiths), no hymns or prayers.

JC9297

I don't know how schools get around saying they meet the requirement for collective acts of worship, but none of the schools my children have attended have them, don't even have a daily assembly. The school I work in has a monthly value and that is usually the focus in assemblies (3 a week), definately no Bible stories or hymns.There are also no prayers, the children are asked to close their eyes and reflect on what has been talked about, think of others or whatever is relevant that day.

milliebear00001

JC9297 wrote: »

I don't know how schools get around saying they meet the requirement for collective acts of worship, but none of the schools my children have attended have them, don't even have a daily assembly. The school I work in has a monthly value and that is usually the focus in assemblies (3 a week), definately no Bible stories or hymns.There are also no prayers, the children are asked to close their eyes and reflect on what has been talked about, think of others or whatever is relevant that day.

The 'closing eyes and reflecting' is almost certainly how they get around the requirement. My own school does this, and treats the 'moral' content of most assemblies as counting towards being 'broadly Christian' - Bible stories and hymns are not compulsory! It's a farce really, and high time the law came off the statute.

Torry_Quine

milliebear00001 wrote: »

Don't know how many Muslims you know, but where I come from Eid is a MASSIVE party! Lots of great food, family and friends around, new clothes and presents (including money very often), all topped off with the teenage boys driving round he streets tooting their horns until the early hours! Not that dissimilar to Christmas/New Year actually.

My school made Eid cards last year (although we are non-religious) and many non-faith or Christian schools routinely celebrate Diwali etc these days too.

There can't be any muslims where I live then as I honestly didn't know that.

That said I suspect it doesn't go on for what seems like the whole month and the religious aspect is important with I would imagine no drunken antics.

dirtysexymonkey wrote: »

jesus's alleged birth isnt on the 25th, its weeks away so if anyone should change its you and your little cult. you dont really have much option other than to change or shut up moaning about other people. no one else will change their christmas celebrations for a minority cult like yours.;)

eid is a huge party! you should try and live outside of your own cult.

This is the last time I will be responding to your rudeness in calling Christianity a cult. I have said that I am well aware that Jesus' birth was unlikely to have been on the 25th. If they are Christmas celebrations then they are about Christ no matter how much you don't like it.

dirtysexymonkey wrote: »

http://www.christiantv.org.uk/

try that. you can watch all day long and not try and force the rest of us to watch it too.

I have never said that I wan't to watch Christian TV all day long but thanks for the link.

euronorris

Lotus-eater wrote: »

I wish mine would, she doesn't even like the food that much, it's the image and the toy she likes.
We've managed to get her to admit she prefers the flapjacks at the local coffee shop to going to Mcds (not that we hardly ever go there), so it's a step in the right direction.

I wish I hated McD's. In reality, I know it's really bad for me, but I LOVE how it tastes!

I've learnt to ignore the craving 99% of the time now though.