New bathroom fitted but shower leaking into kitchen

sunshune

Canucklehead wrote: »

Hi,

Not really been following the thread ( having seen the above I'm not too sorry) but....

I've just seen your post where you say 'we're not using it' and am supprised that of all the 'trades' you've had through the door no one has thought to ask "does it leak when you use it, or all the time" or am I missing something?

If this is a constant leak then silicon is not your answer, it's the supply pipework/mixer connections.

As with another thread I posted on ( boiler in kitchen cupboard) you have two choices

You rip it out and find the leak or

You live with this leak and the increasing damage it's causing in the hope someone will take responsibilty for the leak and remedial work.

GSR.

THank you.

A few of them have run the shower and think it is a sealant/silicone problem not the actual shower itself. Some seem to think it is not a constant leak.

Canucklehead

Hi,

To put it another way then.

If the shower is not used, and the shower is not used to hose down suspect silicon joints/seals, and there are still signs of damp in the kitchen this would suggest a leak on pipework leading to (and possibly including) the mixer. Rather than waste pipework or silicon seals.

On the other hand if the damp dries out then run water down the waste. If it stays dry then hose down the sealant.

All this will take days to perform as it will obviously take time for water to work it's way down/dry out.


GSR.

sunshune

Canucklehead wrote: »

Hi,

To put it another way then.

If the shower is not used, and the shower is not used to hose down suspect silicon joints/seals, and there are still signs of damp in the kitchen this would suggest a leak on pipework leading to (and possibly including) the mixer. Rather than waste pipework or silicon seals.


Thanks so much for this. What I thought was happening was that there must have been a build up of water because when the shower wasn't in use the kitchen cupboards would drip a little for a few days afterwards. When we applied the silicon where we thought had the problem it still dripped. I have had another look just now and it seems like there is a gap where the frame of the shower meets the wall and this runs down the back of the wall and side of the shower. I hope that makes sense. So we are going to apply silicone/ sealant to the frame now aswell and see if that makes a difference.

On the other hand if the damp dries out then run water down the waste. If it stays dry then hose down the sealant.

I suppose I can do this once we have tried selant in the other area i mentioned above.

All this will take days to perform as it will obviously take time for water to work it's way down/dry out. THis is why I think there may be a build up somewhere as the shower wasn't in use but the kitchen cupboards leaked for a few days.


GSR.

You wouldn't happen to be anywhere near the south east would you

keystone

What I thought was happening was that there must have been a build up of water because when the shower wasn't in use the kitchen cupboards would drip a little for a few days afterwards.

Water takes its time to find its way out and doesn't necessarily appear where you would expect it to.

When we applied the silicon where we thought had the problem it still dripped.

Did you completely remove all the old silicone. It doesn't stick to itself. If the bit you resiliconed is the source and you didn't remove the old stuff then the water is geting down between the two layers of silicone.

I have had another look just now and it seems like there is a gap where the frame of the shower meets the wall and this runs down the back of the wall and side of the shower. I hope that makes sense.

Which is what your second opinion said n'est pas?

So we are going to apply silicone/ sealant to the frame now aswell and see if that makes a difference.

It won't unless you remove all (and I do mean all) the old stuff first, clean the surfaces well then reapply.

Oh and have you got the pics?

Cheers

Canucklehead

sunshune wrote: »

You wouldn't happen to be anywhere near the south east would you

Hi,

Occasionally.

GSR.

ListysDad

Boy those goal posts are fast... zooom!

In the OP it was advice regarding resolving the problem (whatever its cause) via the original installer. That, strangely enough, is the advice that has been posted but the OP feels they do not have time to pursue. Now, apparently, it's to be fixed asap despite the situation going on for an indeterminate period. I guess it's no wonder I'm a tad dizzy!

daggy

sunshune wrote: »

Originally Posted by sunshune
No I didn't miss spell anything, nor would I refer to someone in that way especially someone whom I do not know and who is only trying to help.

Woah!!! Calm down there!!! I was clearly jesting; with an attitude like that, I'm not surprised you're finding it difficult to get help. I didn't come on here to have my character judged, just merely some help.

That's fabulous, but given the fact that people have suggested the solution on several occasions, I fail to see what sort of help you are expecting?

You've had advice and there are websites out there which also list trusted tradesman; no doubt there are also many with reviews.

If you live in the South-East (London area?), then you probably have the largest choice out of any area in the country - maybe that's a double edged sword though.

Without going into my personal life, I have said that I have a lot going on and I am only really now getting a chance to deal with this I am sorry that you seem to be misreading that I am holding off on fixing this.

Yeah, where would I get that idea? It's only been going on for a year and this thread started almost a month ago... hmm.

I know, I read your posts!! Surely if you've found the time to post on here about the situation, you could have used that time to also fix the problem? Or at least get the wheels in motion. LIke I said I won't go into my personal life, but if you must know I work away from home 6 days a week so finding it difficult to sort the problem hence the reason I do not have the time. I use my laptop whilst away from home to log on to this forum.

That's contradictory - you say you wont go into your personal life, but then you go into it. I never asked you too, so no, I don't need to know.

Earlier on in the thread you said that 'we' have a son and that you were worried for his safety... It doesn't appear that this is the case. Surely if the problem is as serious as you make out, you would make time to fix it? I'd assume that it'snot just you and your son in the house as you said 'we' have a son... is the other person not capable of sorting this out?

Excuses are like a***holes - everybody's got one!!!


THe shower is not in use and silicone was put on it but it still leaked, so a dye test was done and we think we know where the leak is now.

I know, but can't you apply some sealant in the mean time? It would help you ascertain whether that is where the leak is emanating from.
I have already applied silicone maybe i have used the wrong product or wrong wording which is why you didnt understand me. But i am trying to arrange a few days off to get it sorted out.

It's not just me who didn't understand that; perhaps we all posses below average semantic perception.

Yes they are refusing to do the full job, some say it is the plumbing some say it is the sealant/silicone

That's strange. Have you asked them to carry out all of the plumbing work?

And yes, obviously if you aren't using the shower, but the leak is still continuing, that might suggest it isn't just the silicone. I guess there could be residual water that is leaking very slowly. :S...

You say you can't get the problem sorted as you are away from home for most of the week. Are you taking a holiday to get it fixed then? :S

sunshune

Thank you all for your help but I won't be commenting on the thread any further

Xx