Cameron and Co, you silly....silly boys

Graham_Devon

leveller2911 wrote: »

Must be area specific as here its always bog standard quality ,mend and make do with repairs.In general HA will always fit the cheapest windows,doors,kitchens etc etc etc. If it has a life expectancy of 10-12 years they will make it last 20 years.

In 42 years of life down here Councils and HA have always been tight with money and employ bogders and cowboys in general and won't pay for a decent tradesman.

Maybe theres a set amount or something per area?

For instance, Devon isn't reknowned for a deprived area, such as other areas are. Therefore there are less on benefits, and a much higher percentage of wealthy retired here.

Maybe therefore there is more money per house or something?

I wouldn't know about quickstep if it didn't come from that source for that purpose though. I stop looking at laminate when it reaches £15 per pack! Was looking to get some more for another area, but quickly decided against that when I realised it was £42 per pack, and you only get a piddly coverage!!

The bath thing was also explained to me. While a steel bath may chip, a plastic one will crack and cause a load of water damage. Hence HA put steel ones in, whereas private would have to deal with their own flooding.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

The HA.

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Well why don't you lobby the to get the same as you are a tennent?

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Well why don't you lobby the to get the same as you are a tennent?

Because I'd be lobbying to change the rules and regulations across Shared Ownership up and down the country and it isn't going to happen.

Shared Ownership has lots of downfalls. The fact that you are responsible for all maintenance being one of them. The other being that if you put a conservatory on, you won't see an increase in price outside market value, conservatory or not. Which is why you see a lot of run down shared ownership properties. There is no incentive to pay anything but minimum unless you plan to stay there for x amount of years.

But then there are the upsides too. But when faced with needing a house and not having a great deal of money, where house prices are 11x local average wages, you have little choice!

Really2

Just find it odd they over invest in property they will not be reselling yet the ones they have the high possibility of reselling they did not invest extra in?

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Just find it odd they over invest in property they will not be reselling yet the ones they have the high possibility of reselling they did not invest extra in?

If they don't sell these though it's not their problem. Its ours. If our baths crack, or lino rips, it's our problem, not theirs.

If they don't maintain the council tenanted properties to a certain standard, they won't be allowed to continue to rent them. If the cheap lino rips, its their problem. If their baths crack and floods out the kitchen and a new ceiling etc is required, it's the HA's problem to sort, and re-house the tenant while the work is being carried out.

It's not peeing money up a wall. It's trying to resolve the known problems which some tenants can create when they don't look after their properties as they don't have to pay for them.

If one of the council tenants rings and states the bath has just fallen through the floor, it's a health and safety issue.

if I ring the HA and state the same, you'll get an "and" in response.

Well actually, thats not true, you'd get help, in terms of them suggesting a company to sort it, at your expense, but it wouldn't be a health and safety issue for them to worry about.

Jimmy_31

leveller2911 wrote: »

Must be area specific as here its always bog standard quality ,mend and make do with repairs.In general HA will always fit the cheapest windows,doors,kitchens etc etc etc. If it has a life expectancy of 10-12 years they will make it last 20 years.

In 42 years of life down here Councils and HA have always been tight with money and employ bogders and cowboys in general and won't pay for a decent tradesman.

Nothing bog standard going in round this neck of the woods, grohe and swish building products to name a couple of brands being used in hundreds of properties.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

If they don't maintain the council tenanted properties to a certain standard, they won't be allowed to continue to rent them. If the cheap lino rips, its their problem. If their baths crack and floods out the kitchen and a new ceiling etc is required, it's the HA's problem to sort, and re-house the tenant while the work is being carried out.

It's not peeing money up a wall. It's trying to resolve the known problems which some tenants can create when they don't look after their properties as they don't have to pay for them.

I can't see how triple glazing and solar panels fit in to that TBH.

They do have to provide a certain standard, that was not the issue. It was thing like triple glazing and solar panels as they are not required to do it.

Thus peeing management money up the wall.
If our HA started using management fee funds to do that I would object personally as it is not required and not something the fund should be used for,

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

I can't see how triple glazing and solar panels fit in to that TBH.

They do have to provide a certain standard, that was not the issue. It was thing like triple glazing and solar panels as they are not required to do it.

Thus peeing management money up the wall.
If our HA started using management fee funds to do that I would object personally as it is not required and not something the fund should be used for,

There were big grants available for reducing energy consumption and installing insulation and the like. All happened at the same time, so would imagine its more to do with that.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

There were big grants available for reducing energy consumption and installing insulation and the like. .

All newbuilds require that anyway, if it were grants every HA would do it.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

All newbuilds require that anyway, if it were grants every HA would do it.

How do you feel about self cleaning windows in such properties?