passenger safety on double deckers

harz99

mikey72 wrote: »

If VOSA agree the bus driver has absolutely no responsibilites for his passengers, I'm sure they'll say that to the op.

And where did I or anyone else say that?

mikey72

harz99 wrote: »

Not the bus company breaking the rules though is it?

It's the 16+ students who are old enough to know better.

At the risk of labouring the point - it is NOT the bus drivers job to police the behaviour of his passengers whilst in motion. In practical terms that means whatever action he/she may take at the bus stop before moving, he/she cannot prevent his passengers from doing what they want once on the move. Neither can VOSA or the Police, they can only react after the event.

Once on a dual carriageway or motorway, the bus driver cannot stop to deal with any problem internally; to do so might cause a serious accident, and could well cause he/she to end up in prison like the unfortunate lady driver of a coach who stopped on the A1 near RAF Wittering following a minor accident caused by a foreign lorry driver, whose coach was then run into by an HGV driver not paying attention to the road ahead, and was sentenced because she was held to have been partly at fault by stopping when she could have carried on.

The bus driver is responsible.
If the passengers refuse to travel correctly, he is obliged to stop the bus in a place of safety, and take whatever action is required.
If they can't travel correctly, he is at fault for letting them onto the bus knowing that.

"Not my fault guvnor" won't hold water.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

mikey72 wrote: »

The bus driver is responsible.
If the passengers refuse to travel correctly, he is obliged to stop the bus in a place of safety, and take whatever action is required.
If they can't travel correctly, he is at fault for letting them onto the bus knowing that.

"Not my fault guvnor" won't hold water.

And where is a place of safety on a motorway? I wouldn't trust the hard shoulder would you?

gardner1

if you travel in a car you have to be seated and wear belt
if you travel in a minibus you have to be seated and wear belt
why not on a bus or train
what next standing on a plane

mikey72

Exit or service station, it's no excuse to say you can't stop because.........

mikey72

gardner1 wrote: »

if you travel in a car you have to be seated and wear belt
if you travel in a minibus you have to be seated and wear belt
why not on a bus or train
what next standing on a plane

Try it when the seatbelt light is lit.
Tell the stewardess you refuse to sit down, and pick a fight.
You'll find even planes can stop at the next airport then.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

mikey72 wrote: »

Exit or service station, it's no excuse to say you can't stop because.........

And if the next exit is where they get off anyway? I cant see them having to travel so far on the motorway anyway for a school run..

gardner1 wrote: »

if you travel in a car you have to be seated and wear belt
if you travel in a minibus you have to be seated and wear belt
why not on a bus or train
what next standing on a plane

Ive stood many a time on a plane.. for a long period too.

Notice how trains dont crash as often as cars? Lots of buses down here have seatbelts too.

gardner1

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

And if the next exit is where they get off anyway? I cant see them having to travel so far on the motorway anyway for a school run..




Ive stood many a time on a plane.. for a long period too.

Notice how trains dont crash as often as cars? Lots of buses down here have seatbelts too.

on take off and landing;)

Jeff_Bridges_hair

gardner1 wrote: »

on take off and landing;)

Yes and? you asked 'What next , standing on a plane' and i answered that i have stood up whilst on a plane

mikey72

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

And if the next exit is where they get off anyway? .............

And if it isn't?

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

..Ive stood many a time on a plane.. for a long period too..

With the seatbelt light on, and after being asked to sit down?