City workers salaries

studentphil

shellsuit wrote:

Then why moan about what these workers are paid?

Quite a contradiction if I've ever seen one!!

Maybe they are paid for making selfish and choices that are bad for the world. Maybe they are paid too much for what they do and those wages drives them to take a 1D profit view and not consider the rest of the world.

Does it not worry that you have hugely self interested and unaccountable people running and shaping the world?

feelinggood_2

Phil, I think you are stupid

Ted_Bloke

ben500 wrote:

I'm more concerned about how much of my tax £ is being spent on supposedly educating young Phil?

well for that fraction of a penny you have probably had your money's worth already, rather before the expected time. We don't know what we've had back from whatever we spent on nearly everybody else here, including you, do we?

Quasar

Gabriel-Ernest wrote:

If we were only allowed to discuss topics of which we had experience, that would bar me from a hefty percentage of the threads!

Goodness knows I get frustrated by Phil at times, but to be fair to him, this thread hasn't much turned to his personal life - we've challenged him and ribbed him a bit at his inexperience and blanket statements, but he's done his best to post on topic. As much as anything else, surely this forum exists for us to bounce ideas around and learn?

I just defended Phil ... must lie down ...

That is all very true, and users have replied on topic. Phil says he does not understand why City workers earn so much then goes on to say anyone could to their jobs as they entail just reading spreadsheets etc. That is patently NOT true and a debate has ensued along these lines.

Of course his inexperience entitles him just the same to have an opinion, but when he posts it he has to expect to be contradicted if others have a different one. And his lack of understanding of the points many make do not help the debate stay on topic because of the obvious frustration we begin to feel ever so sooner on each of his threads.

feelinggood_2

Was only kidding, you know I like ya phil

shellsuit

studentphil wrote:

Maybe they are paid for making selfish and choices that are bad for the world. Maybe they are paid too much for what they do and those wages drives them to take a 1D profit view and not consider the rest of the world.

Does it not worry that you have hugely self interested and unaccountable people running and shaping the world?

The only worries I have is keeping a roof over the kids heads and food in their tummys

piper5

Quasar wrote:

That is all very true, and users have replied on topic. Phil says he does not understand why City workers earn so much then goes on to say anyone could to their jobs as they entail just reading spreadsheets etc. That is patently NOT true and a debate has ensued along these lines.

Of course his inexperience entitles him just the same to have an opinion, but when he posts it he has to expect to be contradicted if others have a different one. And his lack of understanding of the points many make do not help the debate stay on topic because of the obvious frustration we begin to feel ever so sooner on each of his threads.

and then as usual when things havent gone his way.. he then turns around and turns it into a thread about himself!!! this is the normal foundation of a phil thread and its get predictable and boring!!!!

studentphil

Quasar wrote:

That is all very true, and users have replied on topic. Phil says he does not understand why City workers earn so much then goes on to say anyone could to their jobs as they entail just reading spreadsheets etc. That is patently NOT true and a debate has ensued along these lines.

Of course his inexperience entitles him just the same to have an opinion, but when he posts it he has to expect to be contradicted if others have a different one. And his lack of understanding of the points many make do not help the debate stay on topic because of the obvious frustration we begin to feel ever so sooner on each of his threads.

Q, I know how commission / bonous work on a general described level.

I was talk about right/ wrongness of it. The issues are different.

Quasar

studentphil wrote:

Maybe they are paid for making selfish and choices that are bad for the world. Maybe they are paid too much for what they do and those wages drives them to take a 1D profit view and not consider the rest of the world.

Does it not worry that you have hugely self interested and unaccountable people running and shaping the world?

Phil, tens of thousands of years ago, our ancestors lived in caves. The biggest boy or girl who could whack the brains out of the smaller peeps would rule the roost: they got the best cut of the hunt, the gathered fruits, the best furs to wear etc. They decided where everybody went, when everybody ate and so on. They were the world shapers.

It hasn't changed one bit. We may go to the polls to vote, but it's the guy or gal with the savoir faire to get our vote who will rule us and we never know exactly what they get up to and what the consequences will be. That is so in politics and economics - which are pretty much the same thing anyway.

So don't worry your head about the City workers shaping the world, because someone has to.

Ted_Bloke

Quasar wrote:

Oh phil! piper5 is not trying to make you out to be stupid. Not at all. She has merely pointed out that you, and her, and most of us, have not the vaguest idea of exactly what is entailed in City workers' jobs, therefore resenting their salaries is pointless.

Also, it's a bit rich of you to complain about anyone getting personal, because you are always sprawling all your personal details on here for us to see.

I will agree with that. Many of the comments including those in favour of City workers seem to reflect a rather filmic image of them, I do not say this is totally baseless but the top-end and most spectacular is what people always go for and take as typical - in positive and negative aspects - envy is never far away either.