Staffie attack

zaksmum

Kay_Peel wrote: »

How long after the attack did you phone the dog warden? And how long after that did you phone the police?

I would have expected the Dog Warden to attend and make enquiries.

I can try to explain the police response - but every police force is different so I can only speak about mine. In cases like this - where
* the dog is not known to you,
* has never crossed your path before,
* there have been no other calls about the dog and
* there are no other 'lines of enquiry' to identify the dog

- the time lapsed is critical to their response.

If you phoned the control room, for instance, 5 minutes after the attack and said that the dog was still around, the call would get a higher priority than one where you phoned 45 minutes later. In the latter case (and I'm assuming that you phoned the control room and not some lazy good-for-nothing counter assistant at your local police station - most are good but there are a few lemons) a record will be made and the description will be circulated to patrols for observations, but they won't attend the scene: the dog will be long gone. A good PCSO might well call on you if you said that you wanted to make a formal complaint about the injury to your dog. If you didn't ask to make a complaint about the injury then you'll hear nothing further.

Hope that helps. Your area may be different. (What on earth does your Dog Warden do if not respond to cases like this?)

I rang the dog warden the minute I got home - no more than 5 minutes after I got myself and my dogs away from the staffie - and the police right after. They didn't ask though how long it had been. I did tell them the dog was very likely to still be in the area and he asked where it was last seen. I rang again after I heard the other dog screaming and he said they would again contact the RSPCA

I rang the police number the dog warden gave me, not 999.

My dog is ok physically but acting out of character, very quiet and subdued. I'm going to check him over again and make sure the bite under his chin is the only one. If he's still like this in the morning it's a trip to the vet.

rising_from_the_ashes

I guess I shouldn't be shocked about the police - someone shot the window out my car's back windscreen, I phoned them straight away and it took over 3 hours for them to arrive (no regard to the fact that it was mid afternoon, the local primary school had just come out and there were kids walking around everywhere:mad:

Another (((hug))) for you and your boy - he's probably just as shell shocked as you are, poor lamb:(.

I'd be very tempted to take him to the vet tomorrow in any case - a dose of antibiotics now may well prevent a more serious infection occurring:(.

Please let us know how he gets on / if the other dog is caught (fingers crossed)

zaksmum

rising_from_the_ashes wrote: »

I guess I shouldn't be shocked about the police - someone shot the window out my car's back windscreen, I phoned them straight away and it took over 3 hours for them to arrive (no regard to the fact that it was mid afternoon, the local primary school had just come out and there were kids walking around everywhere:mad:

Another (((hug))) for you and your boy - he's probably just as shell shocked as you are, poor lamb:(.

I'd be very tempted to take him to the vet tomorrow in any case - a dose of antibiotics now may well prevent a more serious infection occurring:(.

Please let us know how he gets on / if the other dog is caught (fingers crossed)

OMG! Shot out your windscreen??? That's terrible! They could have been still around with whatever they used to shoot at your car and the cops took 3 hours to respond? No wonder law and order has broken down in Britain - the police are worse than useless. They are quick enough to hassle you if you go a couple of miles over the speed limit though. I've lost all respect for them after recent events in my life but is it any wonder so many people feel the same?

I found another bite on my dog, on his face, a clean looking puncture bite, but I don't think that's all. He's far too quiet - probably just shocked as you say but I think it's best for the vet to check him out tomorrow. The staffie was a big muscular creature and you wouldn't know if there's any internal damage, crushing or whatever.

Think I need a glass of something medicinal tonight...!

rising_from_the_ashes

In the end, the only thing they/me could come up with was someone had taken a shot at one of my cats with an air rifle (or similar). Very quiet town, drive (where car was) not in line of sight from the main street ...... it was days and days before I let them out, and I was terrified for ages afterwards.

Poor boy, it will probably just be shock but I think a check up is a really good idea - with the 2 bites on his jaw/face, the other dog may have been able to get a fairly powerful bite-hold in .... and an even greater risk of infection unfortunately.

Is he eating / drinking normally?

Yup, a glass is def deserved tonight - try to get some sleep and not worry too much. Please let me know how he's tomorrow.

tankgirl1

The attacking Staffie - was it in a bad way, covered in scars etc? No owner present you said I think??

Only I heard that when fighting dogs have had their day, after being trained to attack anything resembling a dog, they are just dumped :mad:

What happened to the OP's dog is never going to be acceptable, but there is a sliver of a chance that the attacking staffie is a victim too - of our over important race:mad:

Poor creature - I hope it is found soon, and hopefully rehabilitated.... or otherwise given a release

I would bet everything I own that there is some scrote somewhere who just let their fighting staffie loose - its the human who needs locking up.. OH MY GOD THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY - HUMANS SCREW UP, AGAIN, AND THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS OP'S DOG ENDS UP INJURED!!!!!!!

Not to mention the scared and therefore aggressive Staffie that is probably wandering the streets right now scared sh1tless :mad:

zaksmum

tankgirl1 wrote: »

The attacking Staffie - was it in a bad way, covered in scars etc? No owner present you said I think??

Only I heard that when fighting dogs have had their day, after being trained to attack anything resembling a dog, they are just dumped :mad:

What happened to the OP's dog is never going to be acceptable, but there is a sliver of a chance that the attacking staffie is a victim too - of our over important race:mad:

Poor creature - I hope it is found soon, and hopefully rehabilitated.... or otherwise given a release

I would bet everything I own that there is some scrote somewhere who just let their fighting staffie loose - its the human who needs locking up.. OH MY GOD THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY - HUMANS SCREW UP, AGAIN, AND THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS OP'S DOG ENDS UP INJURED!!!!!!!

Not to mention the scared and therefore aggressive Staffie that is probably wandering the streets right now scared sh1tless :mad:

I'm actually really worried about the staffie, mad though that sounds. He was covered in blood before he attacked my dog and I couldn't see where it was coming from...with him being black and white there were lots of plain white areas on him and the blood was everywhere.

He'd either seriously hurt something or been badly hurt himself. I actually saw my own dog sink his teeth into the staffie in his own defence, and those new wounds started bleeding too. The poor staffie was just streaming blood and I feel really shaken up by it all. But he wouldn't back off and kept going for my dog, who retaliated...they were bashing into my legs nearly knocking me over and I was covered in blood too.

If he's still out there he's going to be in a lot of pain and that distresses me. I wish I could find out if he's captured and given treatment but the police, as always, are totally unhelpful.

rising_from_the_ashes

I also hope the poor animal has been caught too - no matter what they've done, I also can't bear to think of an animal being hurt and suffering.

How's your boy this morning?

vax2002

They call them Staffies because they do not fit the Staffordshire bull terrier breed standard.
This is often because it is a pit bull mongrel cross with aggressive tendencies of the pit bull.
A Staffordshire terrier is a small dog with a box shaped head, probably a third of the weight of one of these staffies and usually non aggressive.
We should not use this name to underplay the pitbull breeding of these dogs, A pit bull is a pit bull and should be called such.
The only solution should be to ban any fighting dog or part breed off that does not meet breed standards unless the owner has 3rd party insurance paid on a lifetime policy for the dog and registered in the dog microchip.
Responsible owners of these fighting breeds would understand.
Hope your dog recovers.
The RSPCA have no more power than the local lollypop lady, you should always call the police on 999 to report a dangerous dog loose.
The police in this case should have acted sooner and despatched a ARV officer.

Person_one

vax2002 wrote: »

They call them Staffies because they do not fit the Staffordshire bull terrier breed standard.
This is often because it is a pit bull mongrel cross with aggressive tendencies of the pit bull.
A Staffordshire terrier is a small dog with a box shaped head, probably a third of the weight of one of these staffies and usually non aggressive.
We should not use this name to underplay the pitbull breeding of these dogs, A pit bull is a pit bull and should be called such.
The only solution should be to ban any fighting dog or part breed off that does not meet breed standards unless the owner has 3rd party insurance paid on a lifetime policy for the dog and registered in the dog microchip.
Responsible owners of these fighting breeds would understand.

Please ignore this load of rubbish.

nikki702

What area was the dog in?