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Fischer Storage Heaters
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We concluded that the claim "storage heater" in the ad, as consumers were likely to understand it, had not been substantiated and was therefore misleading.We noted that even if the energy savings stated in the report were representative of average consumer use, the Fischer systems would still cost more to run due to the differences in cost between electricity and gas.
We concluded that the claims "Gas boiler uses more energy" and "Fischer dynamic storage heaters use up to 50% less energy than your gas boiler", as consumers were likely to understand them - that is, that they would achieve a monetary saving by using a Fischer heater as opposed to gas central heating - had not been substantiated and were therefore misleading.
ASA Ruling on Fischer Future Heat UK Ltd 14 March 2018A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.0 -
Anyone who was sold these heaters on the basis of them being storage heaters or on the basis of them reducing bills should have a case for mis-selling. I'm not sure how many advertising standards rulings it takes before further action is taken but they now have 7 full rulings and 9 informally resolved cases listed on the advertising standards website.0
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I had the Fischer guy turn up and he was very honest. He claimed the heater would store heat for around 45 - 60 minutes, he said the main thing is the remote thermostat in each room. He left after 20 minutes or so.
I was a little annoyed that the woman who first booked the visit had not listened to what I said about long term storage and, by booking the appointment, had wasted both mine and the rep's time0 -
Their website calls them "electric heaters" now. It states they are "able to warm the same room space as an outdated 3.4kW night storage heater".0
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I've just got a flyer through the door - they are now called "Dynamic Fischer Elektrostore radiators"Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers0
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I have spent a fair time searching and do not have even a basic cost of one radiator. Can anyone help?0
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Gerry_G1936 wrote: »I have spent a fair time searching and do not have even a basic cost of one radiator. Can anyone help?
Welcome to the forum.
I believe the price is quoted after a salesman has visited. These are some posts from 2016:
I've only just found this forum.
I have a 3 bed, terraced, x council house, with 7, old storage heaters, that need replacing. 2 Large and 5 small. Wanted 3 large and 4 small.
Just had a staggering quote. We guessed before hand about £4,500 to £6,000. .
The Quote. . £10,400. An average of £1,486 EACH. And the FREE heating survey was awful, hard sell, no answers to direct questions, and lots of jargon, and science, that I'm sure was supposed to sound impressive, and I wasn't supposed to understand, just be dumbly impressed.
I asked for no silly gimmicks during the survey, but I got nothing but that.
Because I said I had 2 quotes already, and wouldn't tell him who with, he managed to put a slur on the products and services of every company he could think of.
I'm totally sceptical of any company that is scared to tell you the price indication of their products.
And he tried to give me a discount, if I put the deposit down NOW. . .NO WAY. Very poor conduct of the guy on the survey. . which was actually a Sales man. . Who was more like a dodgy car sales man. . Honestly "insert name" I wouldn't lie to you. . . "insert name" I only am passionate because our product is so much superior and I believe that you need it "insert name" . . .Blah blah. He repeated my name in EVERY sentence for 2 hours. I can just imagine the sales course he went on. Worst 2 hours of my life.
I knew I wouldn't use them 2 mins after him arriving. . Before knowing the price.
It is a good product, but not worth the hilarious price.
I just want to add, that I made it quite clear that I wanted night storage heaters before booking my quote/sales appointment, as that is what I have now. They said yes correct. However the sales guy, tried to insist that I would need to change off of E7, because these Fischer heaters are NOT totally night storage heater, and DO continue to use electric during the day. Saying that even after I did this I'd be saving on electric. . I'm not so sure. My current antique night storage heaters are not expensive to run on E7.
I was curious about this company so got them to come around and give us a quote. They were very pleasant people, as you'd expect, and not particularly pushy. However, to install 3 radiators in one room (as a trial, so we could see for ourselves how good they were, at a "45% discount"), they were quoting at nearly £4k. For one room (and not our largest by a long long way)!
That buys an awful lot of heating oil, or indeed a cheap electric heater and plenty of electricity.
At that kind of price I don't know how anyone would even contemplate them as an option, though to be fair they might be more suitable for heating a small conservatory or the like.0 -
Gerry_G1936 wrote: »I have spent a fair time searching and do not have even a basic cost of one radiator. Can anyone help?
Fischer are very reticent to publish prices but will send a salesman round to your home. Rough estimate is £2000 per heater.
Aeroflow radiators are much the same thing and their prices are here
http://www.shop.electrorad.co.uk/aeroflow-dynamic-storage-radiators-1-c.asp
Or you can buy a 2 kW convector heater from Argos for £25.A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.0 -
For anyone thats interested the Rointe heaters (which are posh oil filled rads) are about £550 to £680 for a 1.6kw rad - they don't seem to do a 2kw one.
A not quite so posh 2kw oil filled rad from Argos will cost you £49.95 (and you'll get 400 watts more heat from it- so it will warm you faster or you wont need as many.
As the advert says - you do the mathsNever under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers0
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