Fischer Storage Heaters

lstar337

Truthful1 wrote: »

Can you recommend a particular heater for me to buy that will heat a normal size bedroom, please.

Are you restricted to electric heaters? What is your current heating system and are you on single or dual rate electricity?

lstar337

http://www.fischerfutureheat.com/economy-seven.html

Based on independent test report 57240/1 conducted by BSRIA in Bracknell, UK in an average room of 4m x 3m with a ceiling height of 2.4 m with the outside temperature of -1c at its coldest and controlling a inside temperature of 21c over a 16 hour heating cycle from 6am to 10pm.
The FISCHER STORAGE HEATER at 2.2 kW USED ONLY 14.05 KWH.
In comparison if you used ECO 7 NIGHT STORAGE : A 3.5 kW heater would use 24.5 kWH *
ALSO YOU MAY NEED A FURTHER BOOST ON A COLD EVENING USING MORE..
OR YOU MAY USE ECO10 ( HEATWISE) NIGHT STORAGE: A 3.5 kW heater would use 35 kWH *
*Consumption based on the heaters using complete charge on a cold winters day with -1c outside temperature.
FISCHER HEATERS USE LESS ENERGY OVER A 24 HOUR HEATING CYCLE.

Completely failing to mention that the real storage heater is using cheaper rate electric.

See how they twist the design feature of a real storage heater (the ability to store lots of cheaper heat) and represent it in a way that makes their own heater look better. The figures they use a technically true, but they do not show the real story.

You might as well say "It's cheaper to make an airport runway out of jelly than tarmack" Technically that statement is dead right, but I wouldn't want to be landing a plane on it!

Truthful1

If it didn't dupe many vulnerable people it would be laughable![/

Some people might want to spend £3k rather than £25. Most seniors worrying about heating bills fall into the second category. Perhaps Fischer should visit the Kardashian households.;)

Truthful1

lstar337 wrote: »

Are you restricted to electric heaters? What is your current heating system and are you on single or dual rate electricity?[/QUOTE

I do not know what rate we are on.

lstar337

Truthful1 wrote: »

Um, I believe we have the old fashioned storage heaters, quite ancient, on their own special plugs, and some newer Dimplex storage heaters which are a few years old. Not working brilliantly apparently.

Ok, why do you need something for the bedroom? Is the storage heater there broken, or under performing?

Have you thought about electric blankets? Bringing a low level heat closer to your body is much more efficient.

A direct electric heater is going to be operating at peak rate at some point and will cost you a lot more.

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I'm guessing the Fischer guy didn't say anything to you about changing your meter and wiring to standard rate?

If not, the Fischer heaters would have been hugely expensive to run as they would mostly be working on peak rate (most expensive) electricity!

Truthful1

lstar337 wrote: »

ok, why do you need something for the bedroom? Is the storage heater there broken, or under performing? Currently convection

have you thought about electric blankets? Bringing a low level heat closer to your body is much more efficient. We do not like electric blankets...

A direct electric heater is going to be operating at peak rate at some point and will cost you a lot more. Currently have a new convection heater...is it safe?

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i'm guessing the fischer guy didn't say anything to you about changing your meter and wiring to standard rate? No. It was all about programming the spaceage thermostat to cut the heater off to lower bills:rotfl:

If not, the fischer heaters would have been hugely expensive to run as they would mostly be working on peak rate (most expensive) electricity!

how do we know what rate we are on..where do we find out

Truthful1

lstar337 wrote: »

Ok, why do you need something for the bedroom? Is the storage heater there broken, or under performing?

Have you thought about electric blankets? Bringing a low level heat closer to your body is much more efficient.

A direct electric heater is going to be operating at peak rate at some point and will cost you a lot more.

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I'm guessing the Fischer guy didn't say anything to you about changing your meter and wiring to standard rate?

If not, the Fischer heaters would have been hugely expensive to run as they would mostly be working on peak rate (most expensive) electricity!

The knobs on our heaters are dodgy, the heaters work fine. How do we fix the knobs? Can we do it for under £5K?:j

lstar337

If you have storage heaters you should be on dual rate (E7). It'll be on your bill.

That means you get 7 hours at a lower cost ~7p/kWh and the rest at a higher rate ~17p/kWh.

The 7 hours of cheap electric is (usually) at night. Your storage heaters charge up over night and release that heat in the day.

Any time you use a convector outside of the 7 cheap hours, you will be paying 300% more to heat your home.

Truthful1

lstar337 wrote: »

If you have storage heaters you should be on dual rate (E7). It'll be on your bill.

That means you get 7 hours at a lower cost ~7p/kWh and the rest at a higher rate ~17p/kWh.

The 7 hours of cheap electric is (usually) at night. Your storage heaters charge up over night and release that heat in the day.

Any time you use a convector outside of the 7 cheap hours, you will be paying 300% more to heat your home.

Thanks. We thought they were storage heaters operating on the same system.

Truthful1

Am I the only person to have had a visit from an 'engineer'.
The entire sales talk was about how you could program each heater individually in each room for the temperature you desired it to come on at. So if you wanted it to come on when the room temp went below say 50 degrees you could program it to do that and to shut off when the room temperature went above so many degrees.:eek: