Ticket for speeding on motorway

agrinnall

Wig wrote: »

Direct gov does not say that, it says until 70 or for 3 years whichever is the longer period

Obviously until age 70 will be the longer period, unless you are aged 68 when you arrive.

I've pointed out before that Direct gov is probably wrong, it makes no sense the way ot is written, but I think the last time I pointed this out on here, someone said they had a reason to believe that what direct gov says is correct, can't remember why though.... you decide.

That does seem a bit bizarre, but looking at the next section for vocational licences the fact that it changes from "longer" for up to 45s to "shorter" for 45 - 65 probably does mean that it's right.

Stuart107

Direct gov does not say that, it says until 70 or for 3 years whichever is the longer period

You're right of course... and it's strange wording. So strange that I went and read the Road Traffic Act 1988. Section 99A states that for a normally resident community license holder:

(3)In a case where the Community licence holder is authorised by his Community licence to drive motor vehicles of classes other than any prescribed class of goods vehicle or any prescribed class of passenger-carrying vehicle, he shall cease to be authorised by virtue of subsection (1) above to drive in Great Britain any such classes of motor vehicle from—(a)the date on which he attains the age of seventy years, or(b)the expiry of the period of three years beginning with the relevant date,whichever is the later.

So strange it might be but it also appears to be true.

Anyway, thanks for the correction -- I must try harder in future

Wig

It doesn't make any sense because It's saying someone aged 69 years 11 months who comes into UK can drive until 72 years 11 months
But someone who is under 67 when they arrive has to stop driving at age 70.

And I think we all (on UK licences) have to stop at age 70. So it makes no sense.

mark5

Once you turn 70 you re-apply for your licence so its just badly worded probably.

Gloomendoom

Wig wrote: »

And I think we all (on UK licences) have to stop at age 70. So it makes no sense.

:huh: Somebody better tell my dad. He's 85 next month and still drives occasionally.

Lum

If you have an EU licence, then a "UK counterpart", sometimes called a "Ghost Licence" will be created for you and the points will apply to this, subject to the same rules as a UK citizen, most notably that the points expire after 3 years but if you manage to get 12 unexpired points you are banned from driving in the UK. Note that you can't get them physically removed from the licence for 4 years and almost all insurance companies ask about any points in the last 5 years.

It will not affect your Polish driving licence in any way, so if you return to Poland you will still have a clean licence.

If you decide to become resident in the UK you will have to convert your Polish licence into a UK licence and the points from your ghost licence will be transferred.

If you are not planning to become resident in the UK then I'd just pay the fine and not worry about it as it wont affect you in any way back in Poland.


I'd also add that since you were offered a course, that means you must have filled in the Section 172 form on the back of the original NIP. This form is asking you to identify the driver of the vehicle. In other words you have admitted to being the driver of the vehicle at the time of the alleged offence. Any court challenge you make would therefore have to be proving that the vehicle was not being driven at the speed or location they claim. This will not be easy.

Good luck!

mildred1978

Lum wrote: »

If you decide to become resident in the UK you will have to convert your Polish licence into a UK licence and the points from your ghost licence will be transferred.

If you are not planning to become resident in the UK then I'd just pay the fine and not worry about it as it wont affect you in any way back in Poland.

From earlier postings it looks like the OP has been here since at least 2009. What counts as resident for driving purposes?

spiro

A friend works with a lot of Polish people and what they all do because they have polish registered cars is take them out of the UK for a day or more every six months. This is because the insurance allows then to drive here for up to six months. So if they get stopped they not only show the police their driving licence and insurance they also show the latest ferry ticket into the UK. Not saying all Polish drivers do this but were he is its widespread as it avoids the higher cost of UK insurance.

Dave101t

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birkee

Gloomendoom wrote: »

:huh: Somebody better tell my dad. He's 85 next month and still drives occasionally.

YES! They had.

He's not only driving without a licence, but without insurance as a result. :eek: