Ticket for speeding on motorway

sarahg1969

Lum wrote: »

No, as soon as it is a day or so before the 6 month cutoff, the offence will be sent to court anyway, even if there is time on the CO.

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Court proceedings cannot be issued whlile the COFP is current, which is why it is important that the OP confirms exactly what she has received and when.

vaio

Lum wrote: »

£1000 and 6 points is the maximum for a speeding offence.

Nah, there is the possibility of a discretionary ban (two to eight weeks) if you are doing more than limit +30 mph and for motorway speeding offences the max fine is £2,500 although in reality nobody ever gets the maximum

Trebor16

Flyboy152 wrote: »

No it isn't. You can be banned for exceeding the speed limit (although the charge is likely to be "dangerous driving") and the maximum fine is two thousand five hundred pounds.

Whilst you can be banned for speeding (usually for being 30mph above the speed limit) it is utter rubbish to suggest that the charge is likely to be dangerous driving if caught in such circumstances. Making a comment like that is scaremongering and irresponsible.

birkee

Trebor16 wrote: »

Whilst you can be banned for speeding (usually for being 30mph above the speed limit) it is utter rubbish to suggest that the charge is likely to be dangerous driving if caught in such circumstances. Making a comment like that is scaremongering and irresponsible.

It could very well be a combined charge, depending on the circumstances. If you are going faster that all around you, then there is possibly 'undertaking', 'overtaking at junctions', 'tailgating', 'overtaking with oncoming traffic coming towards you' etc etc.

Caught speeding on the motorway many years ago, (pressure of work) and when collared, it was a fair cop. The Police Officer did give me nice smile though, when he said there wasn't a question of 'dangerous driving' involved.
Don't think it would have been the same had I been doing 140mph though. :eek:

Flyboy152

birkee wrote: »

It could very well be a combined charge, depending on the circumstances. If you are going faster that all around you, then there is possibly 'undertaking', 'overtaking at junctions', 'tailgating', 'overtaking with oncoming traffic coming towards you' etc etc.

Caught speeding on the motorway many years ago, (pressure of work) and when collared, it was a fair cop. The Police Officer did give me nice smile though, when he said there wasn't a question of 'dangerous driving' involved.
Don't think it would have been the same had I been doing 140mph though. :eek:

Indeed, if you were to be banned for exceeding the speed limit, the likelihood is that you will be exceeding it by so much that the nature of your driving would be considered to dangerous.

easy

Trebor16 wrote: »

Whilst you can be banned for speeding (usually for being 30mph above the speed limit) it is utter rubbish to suggest that the charge is likely to be dangerous driving if caught in such circumstances. Making a comment like that is scaremongering and irresponsible.

Hear Hear !

A friend of mine was caught doing 101 MPH on a VERY quiet motorway a while back. Certainly there was no conditional offer made, the case had to go to court (and he got a 2 week ban, fine, and points) , but at NO time was there any suggestion of a Dangerous Driving charge.

Lum

Flyboy152 wrote: »

No it isn't. You can be banned for exceeding the speed limit (although the charge is likely to be "dangerous driving") and the maximum fine is two thousand five hundred pounds.

Ok, let me word it this way..

The maximum penalty for a charge of "Exceeding the speed limit" is £1000 and 6 points.
Edit: I was, however, wrong about the fine, for a motorway offence it's £2500.

Higher penalties apply for a charge of dangerous driving. There is also a discretionary disqualification for speeding offences.

If you are significantly over the speed limit, and choose to go to court, they may to do you for dangerous driving as well.


However since the OP was offered a speed awareness course, and these are only offered to people who are just a little bit over the speed limit, they will not be going for a charge of dangerous driving, and are very unlikely to go for the discretionary disqualification.

Trebor16

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Indeed, if you were to be banned for exceeding the speed limit, the likelihood is that you will be exceeding it by so much that the nature of your driving would be considered to dangerous.

And the nonsense continues.

easy

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Indeed, if you were to be banned for exceeding the speed limit, the likelihood is that you will be exceeding it by so much that the nature of your driving would be considered to dangerous.

Your opinion ... The legislation doesn't actually work like that.

I don't honestly think that driving a vehicle designed to go fast (say a big Merc or a Porsche) at 120 MPH on an empty motorway in clear, dry conditions could really be considered 'dangerous driving'.


Sure, they'll nick you for speeding, but would have no grounds at all for dangerous driving.

vaio

Lum wrote: »

.......If you are significantly over the speed limit, and choose to go to court, they may to do you for dangerous driving as well.


However since the OP was offered a speed awareness course, and these are only offered to people who are just a little bit over the speed limit, they will not be going for a charge of dangerous driving, and are very unlikely to go for the discretionary disqualification.

Nah (again), they would never try to tag on a “dangerous driving” charge just because you chose to not to accept a speeding fixed penalty.

If they had evidence that would support a dangerous driving charge you’d get charged with that (and maybe speeding as well) and wouldn’t even get the fixed penalty offer because the whole point of the fixed penalty system is to deal with low end speeding.

If it falls outside the low end guidelines (either in terms of speed or circumstances) then you are outside the fixed penalty scheme and face a visit to the magistrates.

Agree about the unlikeliness of a disqualification though, I’m guessing at the numbers but for un-aggravated speeding it goes something like…….

up to limit plus 8 = speeding awareness offer,
between limit +8 & limit +15 = fixed penalty offer,
more than limit +15 = magistrates
more than limit +30 = magistrates with possible short ban.

If you got an offer of a course or fixed penalty then it must follow that the offence was not serious enough to warrant an automatic trip to the magistrates let alone a ban.