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Solar energy - Feed-in Tariff payment delays - your experiences?

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  • KevinG
    KevinG Posts: 2,094 Forumite
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    orrery wrote: »
    .. or 50.56p with deemed export? i.e. generation + export/2
    Yes, but the question referred to 48.07p, so was not including the export part.
    2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.
  • nobby1963
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    Hi All,

    Just to say that my latest ( & highest £'s = £740 ) quarterly FIT payment was submitted via email on 1st June and paid via BACS on 8th June by EDF.

    Not their fastest but can't grumble.

    Cheers ....Nobby.

    P.S. Not too sure how many are using this thread now ....?
    SMA 4000TL Inverter, 17 REC 235PE Panels, South facing, roof angle \ `ish, 3995 watt system.Installed Nov 2011.
  • orrery
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    nobby1963 wrote: »
    Not their fastest but can't grumble.

    Indeed. mine was submitted on 15th and the BACS advice received this morning. Mine is also a record - £701 for 2.5 months - I vary the submission date (End March, mid June, early September, mid December) in order to try to balance the payments a little.
    4kWp, Panels: 16 Hyundai HIS250MG, Inverter: SMA Sunny Boy 4000TLLocation: Bedford, Roof: South East facing, 20 degree pitch20kWh Pylontech US5000 batteries, Lux AC inverter,Skoda Enyaq iV80, TADO Central Heating control
  • nobby1963
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    Hi orrery,

    I have pondered at times if I should change my submission dates, especially in the earlier days when EDF were a lot less speedy in paying. There were different views on if they paid faster if you submitted at the end of the month etc.
    I once thought that I could do with a little boost in money and should I extend that quarter but in the end we have always stuck as best we could to submitting as soon as the request email comes - normally for us around the first of Jan,March,June & September.
    At this rate we will have paid off our initial install cost of £11000 in 6 years 'ish ! Very worth while investment.
    Nobby.
    SMA 4000TL Inverter, 17 REC 235PE Panels, South facing, roof angle \ `ish, 3995 watt system.Installed Nov 2011.
  • michaels
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    orrery wrote: »
    Indeed. mine was submitted on 15th and the BACS advice received this morning. Mine is also a record - £701 for 2.5 months - I vary the submission date (End March, mid June, early September, mid December) in order to try to balance the payments a little.

    Just had my system fitted, is there anything stopping me not putting a FIT claim in until the end of March 2016 so the payment for the whole period comes in the following tax year?
    I think....
  • michaels wrote: »
    Just had my system fitted, is there anything stopping me not putting a FIT claim in until the end of March 2016 so the payment for the whole period comes in the following tax year?

    Can't see the point in delaying this as for private individuals there is a special exemption for householders first announced in the pre-budget report 2009.

    Under this exemption the tariffs received for energy produced under the FITs (both the generation and the export tariff) are exempt from income tax provided that the households use renewable technology to generate electricity mainly for their own use
  • EricMears
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    Can't see the point in delaying this as for private individuals there is a special exemption for householders first announced in the pre-budget report 2009.

    Under this exemption the tariffs received for energy produced under the FITs (both the generation and the export tariff) are exempt from income tax provided that the households use renewable technology to generate electricity mainly for their own use
    Interesting caveat ! Is that a quote from a government document or just an attempt to simplify position ?

    It could be taken to mean that those of us (a majority I suspect) who don't manage to use more than half their own generation (and are hence already being swindled under the deemed 50% export rules) might be liable to income tax.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • pete-20-11
    pete-20-11 Posts: 1,429 Forumite
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    I wish British Gas would allow payment by BACS. They send cheques meaning I have to travel to a bank on a day off and queue up (their cheques don't seem to work in the automated deposit machines)
    PPI success. Banding success. Double Dip PCN cancelled! South facing solar (Midlands) and battery. Savings Session supporter (is it worth it now!?)
  • zeupater
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    EricMears wrote: »
    Interesting caveat ! Is that a quote from a government document or just an attempt to simplify position ?

    It could be taken to mean that those of us (a majority I suspect) who don't manage to use more than half their own generation (and are hence already being swindled under the deemed 50% export rules) might be liable to income tax.
    Hi Eric

    Digging into the detail/context, it's obviously there to discourage a domestic install with attached office, shop - or more likely - farm out buildings (you know what farmers are like ... well I do :D) etc ... having a large domestic array, using a little of the generation for domestic purposes and the majority for commercial/agricultural in order to benefit from the tax-free status ....

    Actually, thinking about it, there was someone posting on these threads some years back (from Devon?) claiming that their payback period was really short due to using nearly all of their (her?) electricity in house - it turned out that the majority was being used to power the freezers/coolers and lights in the shop downstairs .... :naughty: ... :shhh::silenced: ... :D

    HTH
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  • Martyn1981
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    EricMears wrote: »
    Interesting caveat ! Is that a quote from a government document or just an attempt to simplify position ?

    It could be taken to mean that those of us (a majority I suspect) who don't manage to use more than half their own generation (and are hence already being swindled under the deemed 50% export rules) might be liable to income tax.

    Please don't ask me to find this, as I must have read it 4 or more years ago, but there is a line, somewhere, possibly government advice, that the income (FiT and export) on a PV system is tax free so long as .....

    and the definition was generation upto 120% of household demand.

    I remember the figure, as I was never sure who's demand that would be. Doesn't seem fair to penalise a low consumer, so possibly based on a UK average, but they also seem to vary a bit from around 3,500kWh to 4,000kWh. So perhaps generation up to 4,200 or 4,800 or something else entirely.

    Apologies for getting even vaguer on an already very vague post, but I'm pretty sure this hasn't popped back up for years, and may never have been properly explained/clarified in the beginning, but I do genuinely recall the figure of 120% ........ honest! :o

    Edit: Just a thought, but maybe it hasn't been mentioned for a long time as the FiT rate dropped so much in 2012 (down to 21p, then 16p) that the potential tax issue on the falling subsidy side became less important.

    Mart.
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    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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