"Collection Fee" for stray dog

fluffnutter

fluffnutter wrote: »

How about this... yes, someone came into your garden. They left once they realised there was nothing worth stealing leaving the back gate opened. The dog wandered off.

Crazy I know!

I've noticed that you do in fact entertain this as a possibility.

OK, then. Your dog wasn't stolen, it wandered off. Really it's of no concern how the dog managed to get out, i.e. whether someone left your gate undone following criminal activity or not. What if you'd left the gate undone? What if a window cleaner had? And no doubt you'll say 'but I didn't leave the gate undone' or 'but we don't have a window cleaner' but that's of no consequence to the dog warden.

The fact remains, your dog had to be recovered and for that there's a handling fee.

PeteJC21

bris wrote: »

Maybe you did, you are speculating about what happened with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claims. No crime has been commited and nothing to point to anything except you blaming everyone else for your mistake. Pay the fees and look after the dog better the next time, now i'm away back to sit in my corner.

What mistake did I make? Giving our new dog the freedom to go to the toilet in the garden rather than locl her up so she can sh*t in her bed in the conservatory??

Yes go on.. give me crap about "well you shouldn't have fostered her then".. ok, but she was due to be destroyed by the centre that had her due to lack of funds (they only keep them for a week).

maninthestreet

If this is an 'invoice' and not a 'fine' or 'penalty charge', maybe you can ignore it (like the 'parking invoices handed-out by private parking companies) ??

fluffnutter

PeteJC21 wrote: »

Yes, as I explained above in another reply, I wrote, my initial post in a hurry and forgot to mention this possibility too (which is what probably more likely).

But either way... if someone broke in and let her out, why should I pay?

How do you know someone broke in? You can't prove it. And anyway it's a completely separate event. Someone smashed into my car rendering it completely unroadworthy. As I drive along bits scrape along the ground. The police stop me and fine me for driving something that's not safe to be on the road.

Aah, I argue, but someone crashed into me. It's not my fault, is it.

peachyprice

PeteJC21 wrote: »

But either way... if someone broke in and let her out, why should I pay?

Do you think that they would have broken in if they hadn't have seen your conservatory door open.

Ultimately you are paying the price for leaving your dog with access to the outside while you are not there to supervise it.

Regardless of the fact that someone may have let her out, you are the one who does not have a lock on your gate (they wouldn't have been able to open it from inside if you had and they would have had to climb back over) you are the one who has left your dog in a position where she could get let out, it is your responsibility to pay for the warden collecting her.

peachyprice

PeteJC21 wrote: »

What mistake did I make? .

You didn't buy a padlock for a start.

PeteJC21

peachyprice wrote: »

You didn't buy a padlock for a start.

!!!! the padlock.

I notice how you've all avoided the issue of how her collar mysteriously disappeared too?

My main issue with paying is its case of "here's your £91 charges, btw we stole her collar, so !!!! you."

And you all think that's ok?

babyemily

Are you not just really really glad to get your dog back? Does it matter what/how/where/why she got out? She did - end of and thankfully she was found and brought home to you safe and sound. Pay the £91 op just think had she been hit by a car, biteen someone, caused an accident etc...you could be looking at an awful lot more the £91. Its not a lot to have your dog back in one piece.

waaag

Ah this is interesting, it must be widespread, (I'm in a different area) only 4 weeks ago, my neighbour had almost exactly the same scenario, her dog was found in the next street, she was charged just under £40 to be handed it back. what happened was, a small visiting child had not latched the gate properly, the dog had got out just into the neighbouring grove, perhaps 10 houses away, they refused to give it back until she paid (holding her to ransom) and it's collar was mysteriously missing too and has never been found, she only got it back cos she quickly realised it missing, and phoned the council who said "oh we just happen to have a dog of that description being collected now from such and such grove near to you", they'd been already parked up in the area listening for a cockerel for a few hours - she went across and met them and they refused to give her it until she paid just under £40. she was not given any receipt. They said it was because it had 'no ID' and she had 'allowed' it to roam, not being remotely interested in the facts.

The council in question do not use hand held micro chip reading devices when collecting dogs, instead they drive them over 40 miles away to 'kennels' in a remote country area, that way they can charge the unfortunate dog owner for kenneling fees, fee for allowing dog to roam, fee for no collar - as its usually inexplicably disappeared by now, and if say the owner is elderly and doesn't drive and has no way of getting their pet back- the council can only take away the dogs by their transport. not return - but can't specify exactly why this is...the delightful 'kennels' sell their pet on - if it is deemed attractive, young, and placid. Any not fitting this description are simply euthanised. Nice little money earner for corrupt councils and bent kennels who have only box ticking and money in their eyes and no moral conscience.

When people challenge this the staff simply lie and back each other up. That is the cold harsh facts of the matter.

PeteJC21

waaag wrote: »

Ah this is interesting, it must be widespread, (I'm in a different area) only 4 weeks ago, my neighbour had almost exactly the same scenario, her dog was found in the next street, she was charged just under £40 to be handed it back. what happened was, a small visiting child had not latched the gate properly, the dog had got out just into the neighbouring grove, perhaps 10 houses away, they refused to give it back until she paid (holding her to ransom) and it's collar was mysteriously missing too and has never been found, she only got it back cos she quickly realised it missing, and phoned the council who said "oh we just happen to have a dog of that description being collected now from such and such grove near to you", they'd been already parked up in the area listening for a cockerel for a few hours - she went across and met them and they refused to give her it until she paid just under £40. she was not given any receipt. They said it was because it had 'no ID' and she had 'allowed' it to roam, not being remotely interested in the facts.

The council in question do not use hand held micro chip reading devices when collecting dogs, instead they drive them over 40 miles away to 'kennels' in a remote country area, that way they can charge the unfortunate dog owner for kenneling fees, fee for allowing dog to roam, fee for no collar - as its usually inexplicably disappeared by now, and if say the owner is elderley and doesnt drive and has no way of getting their pet back- the council can only take away the dogs by their transport. not return - but can't specify exactly why this is...the delightful 'kennels' sell their pet on - if it is deemed attractive, young, and placid. Any not fitting this description are simply euthanised. Nice little money earner for corrupt councils and bent kennels who have only box ticking and money in their eyes and no moral conscience.

When people challenge this the staff simply lie and back each other up. That is the cold harsh facts of the matter.

Wow.. there is intelligent life in this forum after all. Thankyou waaag. Yes the warden hadn't even taken her to the kennels when my wife spoke to them, they demanded £31 boarding fees (ransom) before they released her (the following day, even though my wife was there ready and waiting to take the dog back when the warden finally arrived at the kennel), even though she wasn't even at the kennels! And then her collar disappeared!