Child Support / Rights & Responsibility of the father

LilacLillie

Truth is...............bottom line in UK.................Father's have NO RIGHTS!

Whatever anyone says, if you have any experience with being a single (or seperated ) father, its all words, idiot social workers and uncaring people that all go home at the end of the day, leaving the child with skanky poor excuses for mothers.
I am not a man and I am a mother I might add.
LL

gratefulforhelp_2

Although an unfashionable view, in my situation I would have willingly refused the child maintenance (or not got the CSA to chase it), but I'm not sure about the changing their minds bit.

gratefulforhelp_2

littlerat wrote: »

Im going to pop in and ask a question related...

If a woman gets pregnant and decides to give it up for adoption, can the father have the baby instead of it going to strangers? Seems awful if not.

Also, in that case would a woman be forced to pay child support, as after all a man can't refuse his child it even if he doesn't wish to be part of it's life..

Not sure about the first question, but I think in the second question, the mother gives up parental responsibility, so is no longer liable.

If an absent father agrees to the stepfather adopting the child, the absent father gives up PR in the same way and is no longer liable for CS.

princessdreamer

LilacLillie wrote: »

Truth is...............bottom line in UK.................Father's have NO RIGHTS!

Whatever anyone says, if you have any experience with being a single (or seperated ) father, its all words, idiot social workers and uncaring people that all go home at the end of the day, leaving the child with skanky poor excuses for mothers.
I am not a man and I am a mother I might add.
LL

Interesting viewpoint. Any father has the right to go to court for access, any child has the right to refuse if they are of an age to understand the implications. A mother has no right to refuse access unless the children are in danger. A father granted access can refuse to turn up, not bother for months/years then come back again wanting access. A mother cannot force a father to have access, it is his choice. If she refuses to let him see the child she faces court fines and even imprisonment.
I am a mother. I had an amazing father and I have never stopped ex seeing our children. He chooses to neither see or pay for the children conceived during our marriage. He still tells anyone who will listen that I am a gold digger who hides his children from him. Sometimes you have to laugh or you would cry.

gratefulforhelp_2

princessdreamer wrote: »

Interesting viewpoint. Any father has the right to go to court for access, any child has the right to refuse if they are of an age to understand the implications. A mother has no right to refuse access unless the children are in danger. A father granted access can refuse to turn up, not bother for months/years then come back again wanting access. A mother cannot force a father to have access, it is his choice. If she refuses to let him see the child she faces court fines and even imprisonment.
I am a mother. I had an amazing father and I have never stopped ex seeing our children. He chooses to neither see or pay for the children conceived during our marriage. He still tells anyone who will listen that I am a gold digger who hides his children from him. Sometimes you have to laugh or you would cry.

How well you describe the situation for so many parents with care:T

FBaby

littlerat wrote: »

Im going to pop in and ask a question related...

If a woman gets pregnant and decides to give it up for adoption, can the father have the baby instead of it going to strangers? Seems awful if not.

Also, in that case would a woman be forced to pay child support, as after all a man can't refuse his child it even if he doesn't wish to be part of it's life..

A father could stop an adoption and request to raise the child himself, however, he would have to be quick to get to court, prove he is the biological father and that he is able to raise the child, all this before adoption is granted. Once it is, it is too late.

Yes, the woman would be forced to pay child support if he took her to the csa. I would think there wouldn't be a need for a dna test to prove she is the mother, unless she refuse to ackowledge it depsite all medical evidence.

Never heard of such a situation in real life though!!

adamantine

princessdreamer wrote: »

Interesting viewpoint. Any father has the right to go to court for access, any child has the right to refuse if they are of an age to understand the implications. A mother has no right to refuse access unless the children are in danger. A father granted access can refuse to turn up, not bother for months/years then come back again wanting access. A mother cannot force a father to have access, it is his choice. If she refuses to let him see the child she faces court fines and even imprisonment.
I am a mother. I had an amazing father and I have never stopped ex seeing our children. He chooses to neither see or pay for the children conceived during our marriage. He still tells anyone who will listen that I am a gold digger who hides his children from him. Sometimes you have to laugh or you would cry.

you have one of those too?

mine pretends he only has 1 child not 2. i think he thinks that makes him more appealing to women and less like a rat for having nothing to do with 2 kids as opposed to 1?

clearingout

princessdreamer wrote: »

Interesting viewpoint. Any father has the right to go to court for access, any child has the right to refuse if they are of an age to understand the implications. A mother has no right to refuse access unless the children are in danger. A father granted access can refuse to turn up, not bother for months/years then come back again wanting access. A mother cannot force a father to have access, it is his choice. If she refuses to let him see the child she faces court fines and even imprisonment.
I am a mother. I had an amazing father and I have never stopped ex seeing our children. He chooses to neither see or pay for the children conceived during our marriage. He still tells anyone who will listen that I am a gold digger who hides his children from him. Sometimes you have to laugh or you would cry.

Ah yes, we were all married to the same man, it seems. Wish someone would break that mould!!!!

SingleSue

invader wrote: »

If the father chooses not to see the child then he shouldn't have to pay child support. Pretty simple and clear cut I'd say. In this day and age a woman can only become pregnant if she chooses to, she can take the pill, get an abortion or put the child up for foster/adoption if she feels unable to support it financially, it seems completly unreasonable to me that women are able to exploit the law to get financial gain. It's obviously a pretty emotive topic, given how outraged everyone in this thread has become. This is headed to be pretty much just a flame war which is a shame, because it's a really importent topic which I'd have like to have learnt more about, instead of the girls reminding me why I choose to be single :rotfl:.

The man makes the choice as well, if he really is against a baby being produced, he should use his own contraception, no matter what the female has told him about being on the pill.

This is the advice I have given my eldest son who is now of the legal age to have sex.

For what it is worth, my (now ex) husband continued to wear a condom (and we were married), until he wanted the risk of a baby being produced, despite me being on several treatments which made the production of a child pretty much impossible...he (and I), wanted to make sure there was no unwanted pregnancy.