Renting from family and housing benefit

MDF_Goblin

deary65 wrote:

"I think your cheese has slipped off your cracker mate. Asked who to withdraw it? Its a tool to see how much benefit is potentially payable to a private tenant. It doesn't set or regulate the market the landlord does not have to be bound to it - he can and almost always do still charge the contractual rent. I don't think you know what you're talking about and thats being polite."

I have had that said to me before, and that person had to take back what they said.And that was on an other constitutional matter.

People are free to get a second opinion on the matter.

Trouble is you don't provide a scrap of evidence to back up anything that you say. You go on about the law of the land but you don't explain how in your mind the primary legislation and the regulations contravenes consititutional law nor do you provide sources that might agree with your point of view. You can't be taken seriously until you do that. I'v got an open mind, educate me. Make an argument that doesn't just rely on the "because I said so" technique.

deary65

Anthillmob
You seem to be the only sensible person posting on this matter.. This is how wrong I am. My post of a letter which i send,and never get a reply from the borough, the rent is always payed in full, have been deleted and my accounts closed down on every welfare site in the country.

My letter.

“Thank you for your email the contains of which have been noted.

When the law makes a decision in relation to a contract in land it will hold all the parties to any decision reached .

I have advised my client not to complete this instrument known as a pre-tenancy determination,as it is clearly designed to get around the law on this matter.(If the authorities really had these powers there would be no need of this instrument)

Under the circumstances as this seems to be a constitutional matter,could you please pass my letter to your legal department for their consideration and comments”

As your are a benefit adviser, perhaps you could pass the letter to your legal department for an answer I have yet to get one, and if you do, post it here and I shall take it apart for the benefit of the readers.

P.S remember this is a matter of law and nothing else, it needs to be clarified by the courts.
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Labman_2

Give us some links to back up what you say, otherwise we take your sig as we see it....in your own words:-

Your opinion only!

Not correct!

Not factual!

Without liabilty!

In other words put up or....!

DazzerG

Please dont tell him to stop posting.....I haven't had such a bloody good laugh for ages !!!

Labman_2

DazzerG wrote:

Please dont tell him to stop posting.....I haven't had such a bloody good laugh for ages !!!

Sorry Dazzer you are right...I've not had so much fun (with my clothes on) for ages!

So to rephrase:- Dreary, put up or......just carry on entertaining us!

real1314

deary, where's the thread in which:
"I have had that said to me before, and that person had to take back what they said.And that was on an other constitutional matter."

You've claimed all sorts of stuff when I've given you regs and laws, but you never quote any valid ones in response.

Perhaps you have taken a case to court? or perhaps you have some valid qualification in this area, but the way you post and act leads many to think you are a compete clown / and/or a deluded idiot - I'm not suggesting you are, just that you are coming across this way.

Perhaps you could post details of martin's PM back to you? of course if you posted anything false it could lead to trouble, but I suspect you'll have a "good" reason not to post the reply.

anyway, I'm sure that shelter are part of the conspiracy, and cpag too. they publish guides that don't include your chewbacca defence.

Is it worth you posting anymore? Nobody believes you as you never back anything up, and your sig gives away the lack of validity of your posts.

£20 to charity of deary can ever back up this position, hopefully dear will give £20 if he/she can't.

Alleycat

I checked with a colleague today at work and he believes that you don't have to complete the HB form given. However, the onus is on the claimant to provide evidence that they are eligible for HB and for how much.

Regarding the issue of a Pre-Tenancy Determination. This is something which actually benefits the claimant believe it or not. Rather than a prospective tenant having no idea how much HB they may be liable for when signing a binding contract with a landlord and finding themselves having to pay a short-fall they cannot afford, they can make an informed decision on whether the property they want to rent is affordable or not.

seven-day-weekend

What's the problem with filling in an application form?

(Or am I encouraging him?....)

Alleycat

seven-day-weekend wrote:

What's the problem with filling in an application form?

(Or am I encouraging him?....)

Ah but its against your constitutional rights!!! Big brother is watching :eek:

I just don't understand his logic (if there is any?). No one forces anyone to fill in a pre-tenancy determination. It is usually requested by the claimant. They are still able to "freely enter into contractual relations". They are just clear on how much top up (if any) they need to pay. I just can't get my head around what deary is trying to say, it makes no logical sense to me at all.

deary65

MDF_GOBLIN
educate me!

To offer to be educated on a pubic forum shows courage,I feel therefore, that such courage must be respected, and therefore I accept your courageous offer as a gentleman.

As I'm the agreed teacher, and you the agreed student. Having read your work,I have one question, can you explain for me your understanding of a signature on a document. This well give me an insight into your understanding of the law.