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Renting from family and housing benefit

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  • gravitytolls
    gravitytolls Posts: 13,558 Forumite
    Anthillmob wrote:
    ive read somewhere that the moonwas made of cheese but i dont go around trying to convince people that it is.

    quote]

    Is it not then?!!!:eek:

    All these years and I've been labouring under false impressions. The times I've given the children moon filled sarnies.:rotfl:
    I ave a dodgy H, so sometimes I will sound dead common, on occasion dead stupid and rarely, pig ignorant. Sometimes I may be these things, but I will always blame it on my dodgy H.

    Sorry, I'm a bit of a grumble weed today, no offence intended ... well it might be, but I'll be sorry.
  • Anthillmob
    Anthillmob Posts: 11,780 Forumite
    deary65 wrote:
    Anthillmob
    You seem to be the only sensible person posting on this matter.. This is how wrong I am. My post of a letter which i send,and never get a reply from the borough, the rent is always payed in full, have been deleted and my accounts closed down on every welfare site in the country.

    My letter.

    “Thank you for your email the contains of which have been noted.

    When the law makes a decision in relation to a contract in land it will hold all the parties to any decision reached .

    I have advised my client not to complete this instrument known as a pre-tenancy determination,as it is clearly designed to get around the law on this matter.(If the authorities really had these powers there would be no need of this instrument)

    Under the circumstances as this seems to be a constitutional matter,could you please pass my letter to your legal department for their consideration and comments”

    As your are a benefit adviser, perhaps you could pass the letter to your legal department for an answer I have yet to get one, and if you do, post it here and I shall take it apart for the benefit of the readers.

    P.S remember this is a matter of law and nothing else, it needs to be clarified by the courts.
    .

    well thanks for the big-up but seriously you sound like a nigerian 404 scammer and i don't think you actually have a clue what youre on about. youve read a few legal history books and think your suddenly some hot shot lawyer.

    nothing personal but if i were you id give up now.
    There's someone in my head, but it's not me
  • Anthillmob
    Anthillmob Posts: 11,780 Forumite
    ps. this thread is hysterical.

    is your real name Mr Omnigoblin Oyakayama of Dodgyasfek Solicitors in charge of the estate of the late great Doctor Umbongo Theydrinkitinthecongo? would you like my bank details so you can tranfer over $700,000 nigerian dollars?
    There's someone in my head, but it's not me
  • deary65
    deary65 Posts: 818 Forumite
    The significance of a signature

    Just as your N.I number is unique to you, African tribes men scare their face to identify them from others or cattle are branded for the same reason your signature is unique to you.

    We are fortunate to have the benefit of laws which have had nearly 1000 years of uninterrupted development, it is therefore quit a simple matter to call upon it's history to assist us in all legal matters today, always bear in mind our laws, developed out of religious thinking.

    Now the significance, of placing your seal or signature on a document. When you sign a document you swear, by Almighty god (just as in a court when giving evidence) that I have witnessed the tenets of this document and that they are a true reflection of my income and circumstances i.e you have read and understood the contains therein, once your hand is applied to the document it must be accepted by one and all. These procedures where developed in a religious atmosphere to reject such an instrument would be to reject gods word, and that would be unthinkable, for these people believed that god was watching over them. Once the document is signed it is now a legal document( contains a sworn oath) and can then be used in evidence in any court. However, if the contains are not a true reflection of that persons income and circumstances, and you have evidence to suggest otherwise, then the law will vigorously assist in all your inquiries.

    Why the application form for housing benefit cannot be used as evidence.

    A corporation has but one personality, and that is a legal personality, it can therefore communicate in one way only, and that is in a form of words reduced to writing. As a mere legal fiction it suffers from several disabilities one of which is, it cannot mislead, and that application is a misleading document. However, if it contained a warning such as,”you are under no legal obligation to complete this form, not to do so, will not effect your entitlement to benefit”. But if you do, it may be used in evidence in court. This might get into court, but I will still tear it apart.

    So people, make out your statement of claim evidencing your income and circumstances, sign it and send it recorded delivery and keep a copy. Sit back and await the appropriate consideration by way of satisfaction of your claim in the post.

    You seem also to be having difficulty with an understanding the constitution of the country you live in.
    I shall post so you can laugh some more!
    Any posts by myself are my opinion ONLY. They should never be taken as correct or factual without confirmation from a legal professional. All information is given without prejudice or liability.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 939 Forumite
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    Your NI number is NOT unique, in that I have 2 and I know several other people who also have more than one, all legally and properly issued.

    This is a big problem in benefits

    Elmer
  • deary65
    deary65 Posts: 818 Forumite
    The English constitution and why rent restrictions are unlawful.

    The king in is grace made grants of land to his tenants in chief in return for allegiance they made further grants of interests in land to their tenants in return for services these tenants give permission to their servants to occupy land in return for their labour known as the master servant relationship. The important thing to understand is, these were agreements in relation to land securing the crowns subjects in the enjoyment of the wealth and benefits that issue there from.. But, most importantly of all, was the freedom to do so.

    Conclusion: All the above agreements were designed to be mutually protective and freely entered into and where all imbued with a Cristian conscious.

    1)Agreements in relation to land form part of the constitution,that is why rent restrictions are a constitutional matter.
    2)All land is owned by the crown, the crown leaves us to freely deal in land and to strike our own bargains as to it's rental value.

    3)The rent officer puts a value on a rental agreement on behalf of the crown,that is then send to the benefit agency who accept the opinion of the rent officer, which would mean a restriction on the rent.

    4)When you make an agreement to rent, in law, you and the landlord are bonded with the crown in that agreement. The rent officer acting on behalf of the crown has become active within that agreement, which he is quit entitled to do,with lawful authorty. However, he must get all the parties in that contract to a agree the new value otherwise the contract has been violated and therefore any value used by the benefit agency would be unlawful,and not capable of performance. In other words when the law makes a decision in relationship to a contract in land it has to hold all the parties to that decision. That is the law, And let no one tell you any different..

    5)If you are experiencing difficulty with the benefit agency then download print and take my opinion to a lawyer one letter will get you your full entitlement.

    6)That concludes the opinion, I shall refer people having difficulties housing benefit to this thread with the proviso to ignore the derogatory posts. These people have access to legal advice, they are more than welcome to post it here. I know they wont, because I know what that advice would be.

    Regards.
    Any posts by myself are my opinion ONLY. They should never be taken as correct or factual without confirmation from a legal professional. All information is given without prejudice or liability.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    The Benefits Agency or the DWP as they are now called do not deal with Housing Benefit, it is local councils who do. If you dont know that I dont think I need to comment on the other "stuff".
  • deary65
    deary65 Posts: 818 Forumite
    Get a legal opinion form your legal department and post it here, otherwise advise people to take the opinion to a lawyer.
    That is if you are interested in peoples welfare,but I seriously dough that by the tone of your posts.
    For your information a local authority is a corporation born of allegiance to the crown, administering government funds set aside to assist people with their rent. That means you have made a decision on behalf of the crown. I don't expect you to understand the law, so leave people to seek legal advice that is the best advice you can give.
    Any posts by myself are my opinion ONLY. They should never be taken as correct or factual without confirmation from a legal professional. All information is given without prejudice or liability.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    deary65 wrote:
    Get a legal opinion form your legal department and post it here, otherwise advise people to take the opinion to a lawyer.
    That is if you are interested in peoples welfare,but I seriously dough that by the tone of your posts.
    For your information a local authority is a corporation born of allegiance to the crown, administering government funds set aside to assist people with their rent. That means you have made a decision on behalf of the crown. I don't expect you to understand the law, so leave people to seek legal advice that is the best advice you can give.[/QUOTE

    I cant be bothered ( like most others now ) to argue with your other nonsense, but you are still wrong in what you said before as the DWP (NO LONGER CALLED THE BENEFITS AGENGY ) DO NOT DEAL WITH HOUSING BENEFIT. I am interested in peoples welfare that is why myself and others have advised against taking your ridiculous and harmful advice.
  • Labman_2
    Labman_2 Posts: 952 Forumite
    Sorely tempted to do a poll on what planet people think Dreary lives on! I think Earth would be wwwwaaaayyy down the list because he aint speaking any language I recognise! He seems to have a problem giving links to back up what he spouts forth....I wonder why?
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