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  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    edited 16 September 2011 at 11:40AM
    kmel wrote: »
    Interesting perspective, but aren't apostrophes only for possessive and missing letters? Which does this fall under?

    You're quite correct, kmel. The apostrophe is not required when indicating mere plurality as in your examples ('Is').

    However, it's a difficult word to represent and will be confused with 'is', hence the commonly seen inclusion of an apostrophe. It's difficult to represent plural single letter words or abbreviations (e.g. 'DVDs' - commonly seen as 'DVD's'). Incidentally this is also seen with numbers, e.g. 'The 1960's'. The correct form is actually '1960s' but people prefer the apostrophe; they feel it adds clarity.

    I can see their point, and can certainly envisage common usage changing to include the apostrophe as a way of indicating plurality in this kind of example. Puritans won't like it, but language is constantly evolving and it's futile to try to stop change.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • Optimist
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    arcon5 wrote: »
    If I had a nickel for everytime I heard somebody say 'if you don't sort it out, i'll get my son involved -- he's a lawyer ya'know' , never heard any claim to have relatives that are magistrates aswell though:rotfl:.

    For some strange reason claiming that the son has just come out of prison after serving time for GBH tends to get better results than having a lawyer in the family...

    OP put it behind you. Most people have been in your situation £25 really isn't worth the bother. Move on and get on with your life.
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • arcon5
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    Optimist wrote: »
    For some strange reason claiming that the son has just come out of prison after serving time for GBH tends to get better results than having a lawyer in the family...

    :rotfl:

    I've got to agree. I think if a big, burly, tattoo covered man with a huge scar down his face came for a chat, he would command more attention and get quicker results than a man in a suit with some paperwork and big words :)
  • kmel wrote: »

    any help would be greatly appreciated!

    kate.

    Read my signature. I should probably update it to take inflation into account, as it's 6 years old now. :D
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • pendulum wrote: »
    "and my Is when i'm online"... I had to read that a couple of times before realising you meant "I's". It's bad enough not bothering to capitalise, but when you start leaving out the grammar too...

    That's not grammar, it's punctuation. :whistle:
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • kmel
    kmel Posts: 17 Forumite
    DCFC79 wrote: »
    Hurting your feelings jeez, just let it go over your head



    Not miserable people but helpful people who offer opinions which in this case were opinions you weren't after

    i meant the people who commented on my 2 spelling mistakes.
    and i'm not really thick skinned. just the way i am! (it's nice to be nice ;).)
  • kmel
    kmel Posts: 17 Forumite
    You're quite correct, kmel. The apostrophe is not required when indicating mere plurality as in your examples ('Is').

    However, it's a difficult word to represent and will be confused with 'is', hence the commonly seen inclusion of an apostrophe. It's difficult to represent plural single letter words or abbreviations (e.g. 'DVDs' - commonly seen as 'DVD's'). Incidentally this is also seen with numbers, e.g. 'The 1960's'. The correct form is actually '1960s' but people prefer the apostrophe; they feel it adds clarity.

    I can see their point, and can certainly envisage common usage changing to include the apostrophe as a way of indicating plurality in this kind of example. Puritans won't like it, but language is constantly evolving and it's futile to try to stop change.

    very true, this is why i never start spelling arguments on the internet, if i know what it means, i can get over it haha.
  • kmel
    kmel Posts: 17 Forumite
    pendulum wrote: »
    Substitute winning with failing and all will become clear.

    You need to go a bit further than reading an introduction to the apostrophe from an American university website in order to understand their many uses.

    please enlighten us all, as i couldn't find any other sources. not a big deal in my opinion but i'd like to know for future reference if people are going to keep kicking up a fuss.
  • kmel
    kmel Posts: 17 Forumite
    arcon5 wrote: »
    :rotfl:

    I've got to agree. I think if a big, burly, tattoo covered man with a huge scar down his face came for a chat, he would command more attention and get quicker results than a man in a suit with some paperwork and big words :)

    i'd better start hitting the gym ;).
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    kmel wrote: »
    i'd better start hitting the gym ;).

    So should I :)

    scrawny.jpg?w=286&h=297

    (to clarify, not actually me:))
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