Should gay marrige be allowed?

fluffnutter

TheSaint wrote: »

We are getting beyond the OP on this one, but yes you are essentially correct. The bible was written in a different time - hence it not talking about internet !!!!!! But truth does not change, if it is wrong it is wrong, simple as that.

Not all Christians condemn homosexuality because not all Christians really are Christians - because they do not believe in the bible nor Christs teachings. You can't cherry pick the bits you like. As Christ said - you are either for me or against me - he that is luke warm will be spewed out of his mouth (not a nice image). I would imagine 99% of Christians have never read the bible (I have several times).

So Christians who don't condemn homosexuality aren't really Christians? If I were to say that to my mother, my brother, my friend who is a vicar - that they weren't real Christians because they don't condemn gay people - they wouldn't agree with you. Which just makes me think it's all a matter of opinion. Who says you're right? Another Christian says something different. Who's to say they're not right and you're wrong?

There must be some Christians out there reading this thread who don't condemn homosexuality. If there are, care to comment?

Incidentally TheSaint, are you a creationist?

Torry_Quine

fluffnutter wrote: »

So Christians who don't condemn homosexuality aren't really Christians? If I were to say that to my mother, my brother, my friend who is a vicar - that they weren't real Christians because they don't condemn gay people - they wouldn't agree with you. Which just makes me think it's all a matter of opinion. Who says you're right? Another Christian says something different. Who's to say they're not right and you're wrong?

There must be some Christians out there reading this thread who don't condemn homosexuality. If there are, care to comment?

I agree up to a point. It is not for me to say if someone is or indeed is not a Christian that is between them and God.

fluffnutter

TheSaint wrote: »

Maybe, but if the net effect of jumping off a cliff is death - are you bigoted for telling people it will happen if they do so?

But that's just your belief though isn't it? We don't as yet have any proof that anyone burns in hell so how can you tell someone this will happen? Their belief is that this won't happen. And when one belief is up against another belief, both have equal validity.

And if you don't believe that, that's bigotry

johnnyboyrebel

TheSaint wrote: »

If you want to be gay - then thats fine, just don't pretend to follow a bible you must either have never read or ignore parts you don't like.

And this is where your valid points became irrelevant.

Because of course being gay is a choice isn't it? People aren't born being gay, it's something they just decide to get into when they've had enough of women. :rotfl:

Utter tripe.

johnnyboyrebel

TheSaint wrote: »

Maybe, but if the net effect of jumping off a cliff is death - are you bigoted for telling people it will happen if they do so?

So the net effect of being gay is death? I just wanted to check you are seriously suggesting this :doh:

TheSaint_2

johnnyboyrebel wrote: »

And this is where your valid points became irrelevant.

Because of course being gay is a choice isn't it? People aren't born being gay, it's something they just decide to get into when they've had enough of women. :rotfl:

Utter tripe.

Spoken by a true bigot (this could go all day couldn't it). No one is born gay - that is utter crap. There is no "gay" gene.

fluffnutter

TheSaint wrote: »

I would imagine 99% of Christians have never read the bible (I have several times).

And incidentally, many atheists (well I speak for myself here) have dipped more than a toe in on occasion too.

TheSaint_2

fluffnutter wrote: »

But that's just your belief though isn't it? We don't as yet have any proof that anyone burns in hell so how can you tell someone this will happen? Their belief is that this won't happen. And when one belief is up against another belief, both have equal validity.

And if you don't believe that, that's bigotry

True enough - we will find out in the next life (if there is one - added that to be equal opportunities on the beliefs!).

I can share my belief - and you can share yours. Its fine! Muslims tell me I am an infidel and will burn too. It doesn't offend me, I quite like to learn of others beliefs.

TheSaint_2

johnnyboyrebel wrote: »

So the net effect of being gay is death? I just wanted to check you are seriously suggesting this :doh:

Spiritual death - yes. But then I can believe what I like - as I have previously said. I will not force that on you or anyone else.

johnnyboyrebel

TheSaint wrote: »

No one is born gay

:rotfl:You are just too much

Spoken like a true religious nut.

Your beliefs are so outdated.

Sorry mate but I cannot accept your posts are not just a wind up.