Landlord is terminally ill and has given notice!

franklee

ceridwen wrote: »

He just wants to be in his home, near his family forgawdsake.

I am sorry but it isn't the landlord's home, it's the tenant's. The OP hasn't said if it's even the landlord's former home just "he needs to move back this way to be closer to his family and wants to live in this house". However the landlord's home, a "6 bed in Blackheath, worth over a £1m" is so far different from the OP's "pokey 2 up 2 down" that I'd be surprised if he lived at the latter recently.

Anyway if the landlord wants to be near his daughter in a hurry he should be assisting the OP financially to allow the OP to move. The OP should get any agreements about reduced rent liability, moving date etc. in writing from the landlord so he/she cannot be charged after the event for full rent till he/she could have given notice. If it comes down to a council house the OP should make sure they are not intentionally homeless.

I've seen threads where a tenant asking to be let out of a contract due to similar issues where the landlords suggest asking the tenant for medical proof like a doctor's letter with no one up in arms about it. I don't see this as particularly different although not necessary if the OP knows the daughter.

I'm wondering why the daughter can't move into the landlord's 6 bed in Blackheath home?

theartfullodger

franklee wrote: »

I am sorry but it isn't the landlord's home, it's the tenant's. ........

Agree with Frank: Indeed, stronger than that, it's tenant's PROPERTY not Landlord's property - see....
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/08/31/urban-myth-when-a-landlord-lets-a-property-its-still-his/

Cheers!

Artful (Landlord since 2000...)

Whirlee

I'd be cynical as well. We were given notice to leave our rental after 3 years because the LL was divorcing and needed to live there himself/sell it for money (depending on who we spoke to). Turned out to be complete rubbish, they just wanted to put the rent up and were too lazy to negotiate with us.

Also I used to work for my local council's housing department and if you turned up with a child and nowhere to live we would house you temporarily regardless of your income. Although obviously this would be the absolutely last resort for you as its so uncertain.

We also ran schemes where we would provide/lend people a deposit so they could rent somewhere.

Thrugelmir

paddedjohn wrote: »

Im with G_M, to leave on their terms you should negotiate with the agents for the best deal possible. Although sad, its not really your problem about the LL, he wants to be near his family but you need to look after your own, your prority is housing your family and until an s21 notice is issued then you dont have to do ahything.

The danger in such an attitude is obtaining a reference for use in the future. While it may work this time. It would certainly count against you at a later date. Even just with the current letting agent.

ceridwen

franklee wrote: »

I am sorry but it isn't the landlord's home, it's the tenant's. The OP hasn't said if it's even the landlord's former home just "he needs to move back this way to be closer to his family and wants to live in this house". However the landlord's home, a "6 bed in Blackheath, worth over a £1m" is so far different from the OP's "pokey 2 up 2 down" that I'd be surprised if he lived at the latter recently.


I'm wondering why the daughter can't move into the landlord's 6 bed in Blackheath home?

From memory - the landlord did originally live in this house previously.

Certainly - the daughter may well have a job and/or Life where she is - and Blackheath would be too far away from the job and/or Life for her to be able to continue with them.

ceridwen

theartfullodger wrote: »

Agree with Frank: Indeed, stronger than that, it's tenant's PROPERTY not Landlord's property - see....
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/08/31/urban-myth-when-a-landlord-lets-a-property-its-still-his/

Cheers!

Artful (Landlord since 2000...)

There are times and places for quoting the Law (eg in dealing with employers/etc) - and, on the other hand, there are times and places for putting a bit of compassion and commonsense first.

The thing is to differentiate between the two.

From where I am standing - this is a time for using a bit of "compassion and commonsense".

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Please people "Stop arguing for selfishness/cynicism/etc" - or that ceridwen "doesnt know what shes talking about" (oh really? want to bet on that?) and just exercise a bit of compassion for once.

When someone (ie O.P. in this case) is trying to be fair/a nice person/etc - then WHY are people trying to dissuade her from this?...and that is a serious question actually....

MissMoneypenny

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The danger in such an attitude is obtaining a reference for use in the future. While it may work this time. It would certainly count against you at a later date. Even just with the current letting agent.

Really? When we want to get rid of someone at work, we always give them a good reference.

Thrugelmir

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Really? When we want to get rid of someone at work, we always give them a good reference.

Employment references these days tend to be bland.

No reference speaks far louder than a reference. If somebody "messes" you around what's the inclination of helping them at a later date.

What goes around comes around as they say.

MissMoneypenny

ceridwen wrote: »

When someone (ie O.P. in this case) is trying to be fair/a nice person/etc - then WHY are people trying to dissuade her from this?...and that is a serious question actually....

Because some of us don't believe the story the LL or LA is giving. I lived just down the road from my mother but had to move into her house to look after her, as overnight was the worst time.

It does seem very stange that he would move from a 6 bed house to a 2 up two down, as he has 5 spare bedrooms in his home. Apart from the lack of room, the stairs in these 2 up 2 down type of houses, can be lethal.

Of course, if the landlord produces a doctors letter to confirm his story, then that is another matter.

ceridwen

But then maybe he just wants to go back to the type of house he is most familiar with now that The End is approaching? - ie rather than a "Look at me - look at how much I've achieved" type house.?? - and lets not forget that it will count for a lot to have the daughter just down the road.

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I must admit that I'm more inclined to the theory that anyone who is trying to persuade another person to be selfish wants "company" for the viewpoint they themselves tend to take ......

Misery loves company and so do "bad consciences" (ie to tell themselves that the way THEY act isnt so bad after all - because "everyone else does too").:cool::cool:

It IS very VERY frequent indeed in any wished-for course of action for people to look around and see what others do in the same situation and it DOES influence their behaviour or justify the way they themselves wish to act.