partner didnt pass medical......

TrixieB

spam buttoned

sunnyone

cit_k wrote: »

On the contrary, its available for anyone who wishes to view it.

The DWP even provide a copy

Click here, direct from the DWP.

This is the public face of ATOS/DWP and we all know that the truth is very diffrent lol.

Brassedoff

Lol, although my Occupational Theripist and the specialist say I need a wheelchair. The local NHS wheelchair service says I do not fit their criteria (as stated in a different thread) to have one. I can at least relax in the knowledge I can have a imaginary one thanks to The DWP & ATOS!

Hold on, if I accept this concept, this means I could be mentally unsound. Do I get points for that?

sunnyone

Brassedoff wrote: »

Lol, although my Occupational Theripist and the specialist say I need a wheelchair. The local NHS wheelchair service says I do not fit their criteria (as stated in a different thread) to have one. I can at least relax in the knowledge I can have a imaginary one thanks to The DWP & ATOS!

Hold on, if I accept this concept, this means I could be mentally unsound. Do I get points for that?

Have you dont the things people recomended in your thread?

You must insist on your rights, there are people much better off than you with NHS wheelchairs.

G51shopaholic

If you need a wheelchair in the meantime I would highly recommend the Red Cross.

My sister broke her ankle quite badly and badly sprained the other - the NHS hospital gave her crutches!

Our local Red Cross gave her a manual wheelchair as the hospital refused!

Brassedoff

sunnyone wrote: »

Have you dont the things people recomended in your thread?

You must insist on your rights, there are people much better off than you with NHS wheelchairs.

Yes I he, got the local MP involved (Tory) and he wrote two letters that day. Three days later a phone call. I have my assessement in nine hours time. So, here's waiting. I cannot self propel as when I reach forward I get a pull in the facet(spelling) joint area resulting in excruciating pain.

Onto the thread, the "virtual wheelchair" smacks of the Goverment having their cake and eat it! It sort of makes it a self fulfilling prophecy, again, do you get points for a mental illness for imagining you have a wheelchair or you did not have one but thought you had?

TrixieB

How did you get on Brassedoff?

Richie-from-the-Boro

sunnyone wrote: »

Your wrong it mobilising 50 meters and they assume you have a virtual wheelchair if you have problems walking so he would still have failed, its important to get your information right if you are going to appeal or you just show yourself up and make sure he fails again at appeal.

I have other concerns with this mobilise issue, the walking test is replaced by “mobilising unaided by another person, with or with out a a walking stick, manual wheelchair or other aid if such can reasonably be used”.

My concern starts with that keyword reasonably Just because we have upper limb function does not itself and of itself make wheelchair use reasonable

- why should the cost of a wheelchair be inposed on us against our will by the DWP
- rent wheelchairs for £10 + VAT a week with £50 deposit / only for a limited period, buy one for £180 +
- why should we have the use of a wheelchair forced on us unwillingly
- upper arm strength test, the WCA does not include such a test, only a carton of milk & empty box's
- if you live in a house that's fine, but what about those who live 3 stories up
- the LHA's have no wherewithal to afford to supply them
- all arthritics are constantly told to keep trying even if its only 10 yards - or you will seize up
-

Cpt.Scarlet

You raise some interesting points, but none of them are relevant to the mobilisning test.

Extract from the WCA Handbook
"In this activity, the HCP should consider whether a person could potentially use a wheelchair regardless of whether or not they have ever used a wheelchair. In considering this issue, as above, upper limb function and cardiorespiratory status must be taken into account."

Richie-from-the-Boro

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

You raise some interesting points, but none of them are relevant to the mobilisning test.

Extract from the WCA Handbook
"In this activity, the HCP should consider whether a person could potentially use a wheelchair regardless of whether or not they have ever used a wheelchair. In considering this issue, as above, upper limb function and cardiorespiratory status must be taken into account."

I don't disagree, the point I was making, and clearly did not make it clear enough, was that the scope of the descriptor :

- is far too wide
- needs to be challenged in [ tribunal ] law
- and is [ from my point of view ] in legal terms ' not reasonable '

As an aside [ from my point of view ] anyone subjected to a wheelchair mobilising test other than (1) someone who was a ' regular user ' of a self propelled wheelchair or (2) someone with a good physique / upper body strength would find it difficult to do 50 meters without stopping.

Additionally someone who was (4) a ' regular user ' of a self propelled wheelchair in the home would find it difficult to self propel outdoors for that same 50 meters without stopping.

The foundation of the problem is the WCA is not what it is supposed to be ' a test of limited capability for work. Its really a crude menu of grades of disability, couched in medical sounding terms. Years ago we used to call this kind of employability examination can~do~can't~ do~profiling. Its a very poorly disguised approach driven by the treasury to spend less ackkers.

That is evident because the process [ ATOS / LiMA ] is purely process & procedural in focus - by this I mean most medical conditions are likely to have already been certified by a GP etc as leading to a ' limited capability for work '



BTW I've never sat in a wheelchair in my life ! So you manual users out there correct me if I am wrong on items (1-4)