some Drivers

wba31

I agree with Flyboy in all this, why does it matter what car in front has done, you need to look where you're going... to look in the lane to my right I have a nifty device fitted to my car, called a wing mirror. To use it requires a swift glance that means my eyes are off the road for a mere few seconds, but not far enough that i cannot see brake lights out the corner of my eye.

birkee

mikey72 wrote: »

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Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.


So if I flash, and you decide to pull out......
Nothing to do with me I'm afraid as 111 states.

111

Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

OK, must get up to date with the highway code!

But a classic indication of why you shouldn't use headlights as a signal, when a horn (within specified hours) is a more definitive warning that you are there. (Quick beep of course, not a long drawn out angry blast.)

Lum

Actually, if the case that Birkee posted at the top of this page is true, and drivers can be held responsible for the consequences of trying to be nice, then a flash of the lights is in fact the best way to signal someone to come out as it means you can deny it later should things go wrong.

interstellaflyer

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Then the person who taught you needs to go back to instructor school. Because I was taught that one should be courteous to other road users at all times and that includes allowing other drivers through if they are at more of a disadvantage to me. For example, in slow moving traffic, one should merge in turn. Something that every driver should adopt, but sadly many ignore.

I think in context of this thread stopping and flashing people out is my bugbear, allowing traffic to merge by leaving a gap is what I do. By stopping and flashing you are pretty much telling the other driver it's ok to pull out or accross and as I mentioned earlier, people often do this in good faith but fail to observe what other road users are doing, by leaving a gap you are putting the onus on the other driver to decide if it is safe to pull out.

As for the opening post, no one is saying that the TS shouldn't have been a little more on the ball hover, given the scenario put by the OP, the driver in front pulled out then suddernly stopped to give way to someonenwho didn't have right of way, he made no mention of how heavy the traffic was so we can only assume that traffic was flowing normally, the scenario you are creating is that the exits were blocked and the other driver (quite rightly) left a gap to keep the traffic using other exits flowing. My comments are based on what the OP has out down, not based on a different inturpretation of the events.

Lum

interstellaflyer wrote: »

I think in context of this thread stopping and flashing people out is my bugbear, allowing traffic to merge by leaving a gap is what I do. By stopping and flashing you are pretty much telling the other driver it's ok to pull out or accross and as I mentioned earlier, people often do this in good faith but fail to observe what other road users are doing, by leaving a gap you are putting the onus on the other driver to decide if it is safe to pull out.

The onus is always on the other driver to decide if it's safe to pull out.

interstellaflyer

Lum wrote: »

The onus is always on the other driver to decide if it's safe to pull out.

Yes indeed but stopping and flashing gives a false sense of security as mentioned, often the driver doing it has not clocked what other road users are doing and we all ready know what the highway code say's on flashing headlights, also as others have mentioned often these people do this when they may only have one car behind them.

Flyboy152

interstellaflyer wrote: »

I think in context of this thread stopping and flashing people out is my bugbear, allowing traffic to merge by leaving a gap is what I do. By stopping and flashing you are pretty much telling the other driver it's ok to pull out or accross and as I mentioned earlier, people often do this in good faith but fail to observe what other road users are doing, by leaving a gap you are putting the onus on the other driver to decide if it is safe to pull out.

As for the opening post, no one is saying that the TS shouldn't have been a little more on the ball hover, given the scenario put by the OP, the driver in front pulled out then suddernly stopped to give way to someonenwho didn't have right of way, he made no mention of how heavy the traffic was so we can only assume that traffic was flowing normally, the scenario you are creating is that the exits were blocked and the other driver (quite rightly) left a gap to keep the traffic using other exits flowing. My comments are based on what the OP has out down, not based on a different inturpretation of the events.

I am not sure if you really read my post, or just simply responded to the wrong one.

Flyboy152

interstellaflyer wrote: »

Yes indeed but stopping and flashing gives a false sense of security as mentioned, often the driver doing it has not clocked what other road users are doing and we all ready know what the highway code say's on flashing headlights, also as others have mentioned often these people do this when they may only have one car behind them.

It doesn't matter what intention the driver who flashes his headlights has, the onus is on the other driver to ensure it is safe.

You ought to try driving in the countryside, there it is impossible to drive on a single track lane, without flashing headlights to indicate giving way.

interstellaflyer

Flyboy152 wrote: »

You ought to try driving in the countryside, there it is impossible to drive on a single track lane, without flashing headlights to indicate giving way.

Actually, I do live in a small village in a very rural area, I just work in Oxford so I do know all about country lanes and single track roads but then they are hardly busy city/town roads which is the focus of this thread.

Hammyman

Polmop wrote: »

You dont know what else is going on at the moment to pass comment on my state

May I suggest that perhaps everything else that is going on at the moment makes you unfit to drive?