some Drivers

birkee

marlot wrote: »

What annoys me is people stopping to let someone out of a side road, when I'm the only driver behind the car that stops - they obviously rate courtesy over using their mirrors!

And five seconds later, it would have been possible for the car to pull out anyway! Yes, we all suffer from them.

Lum

birkee wrote: »

If memory serves, a driver flashed his headlights to a car in the sideroad, to say 'I'll let you out', and when the car exited the side road to turn right, it was hit broadside by an overtaking vehicle.

They obviously had a crap lawyer.

"I was just flashing my lights to warn them of my presence, and that of the overtaking vehicle"

birkee

Lum wrote: »

They obviously had a crap lawyer.

"I was just flashing my lights to warn them of my presence, and that of the overtaking vehicle"

Aye, there's the rub.
Headlight flashing is not a recognised signal in the highway code.
Some flash to say come on out, and someone else flashes as a warning to NOT come out. :eek:
What better reason is there to ignore the signal anyway?

mikey72

birkee wrote: »

Aye, there's the rub.
Headlight flashing is not a recognised signal in the highway code.
Some flash to say come on out, and someone else flashes as a warning to NOT come out. :eek:
What better reason is there to ignore the signal anyway?

110

Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.


So if I flash, and you decide to pull out......
Nothing to do with me I'm afraid as 111 states.

111

Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

anotherbaldrick

mikey72 wrote: »

110

Flashing headlights. Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.


So if I flash, and you decide to pull out......
Nothing to do with me I'm afraid as 111 states.

111

Never assume that flashing headlights is a signal inviting you to proceed. Use your own judgement and proceed carefully.

It always amuses me to see English drivers flashing other cars on the Continent , They think they are saying "after you Francois", but over there a headlight flash means , don't even think of moving, I am coming through with my foot to the floor.

adonis

Strider590 wrote: »

3 days ago I was following this silver haired chap and I had 3 of those "omg.... USE YOUR INDICATORS!!!" moments before I realised he wasn't lost and was infact stopping at junctions to allow cars onto the main road.

40mph - stop - 40mph - stop - 40mph - stop - 40mph - stop - 40mph - ~OVERTAKE~ and good luck to the poor sap behind you!

Perhaps he was french, here

ffacoffipawb

Polmop wrote: »

Nearly had an accident this morning, still shaking now.

I was joining a roundabout and checking the road on my left as i was still driving and a stupid driver in front of me had stopped in the middle of the roundabout to let someone join further round.

Just managed to stop in time i am sure there was only about an inch gap

Love it

Was it a Vauxhall Corsa? They seem to attract really bad drivers (since the demise of Rover).

mikey72

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

It always amuses me to see English drivers flashing other cars on the Continent , They think they are saying "after you Francois", but over there a headlight flash means , don't even think of moving, I am coming through with my foot to the floor.

Just come back from france, flashed in by a lot of french drivers with no problems.
It seems to mean exactly the same thing.

Harry_Flashman

ffacoffipawb wrote: »

Was it a Vauxhall Corsa? They seem to attract really bad drivers (since the demise of Rover).

Nowhere near as bad as the Nissan Micra or Honda Jazz, :mad:

Flyboy152

interstellaflyer wrote: »

Quite so, when I learnt to drive 30 years ago, I was taught that you only give way when the road markings and signage tell you to. Here in Oxford I see so called courtesy from motorists every day, I alos see a lot of near misses as a result, I've had people flash me out of a side road yet the driver doing it has clearly not seen the cyclists using the cycle lane, quite often they continue to flash, absolutly oblivious to the cyclists and I often have to point to them.

Then the person who taught you needs to go back to instructor school. Because I was taught that one should be courteous to other road users at all times and that includes allowing other drivers through if they are at more of a disadvantage to me. For example, in slow moving traffic, one should merge in turn. Something that every driver should adopt, but sadly many ignore.


If other drivers pull out in front of other road users, that is their own fault for not being observant enough; a little like the OP.

Another issue I've had with so called couteous drivers was an old guy at traffic lights, even though we had the green light He gave way to all the traffic wiating to turn righ against us, they had a filter light any way and would have been next in the sequence so it was pointless, basicaly once he had done his courteous act he had just enough time to get himself across before the lights changed, how courteous was that to all the vehicles behind him?

That is not being courteous that is bad driving. As I pointed out earlier, nervous drivers are dangerous drivers.