Car clamped in own space!!

chrisspectre

robredz wrote: »

So you are saying that in a residents parking area where your pals prowl, I go out, as I work a fair way away, but a mate works nearby, and cannot park near the workplace round the corner, so I allow him the use of my drive, which BTW is obviously off road and MY PROPERTY and you have no right to enforce diddly on it; in working hours, knowing he will be gone when I return, and furthermore it prevents someone randomly parking there notwithstanding randomers don't have a key for the gates......

But you would say he would have to buy a visitors permit, !!!!!! to park in someones private property over which the Parking scheme has NO JURISDICICTION, in that scenario the clamp could lawfully be cut off and tossed back at the clampers

You would clamp his motor 'cos he isn't displaying a permit in MY drive?

Again, my motor is in for service, I park a courtesy car in my drive, so you would clamp that also?

Sorry you appear to be on planet PPC not the really real world. Oh also my CCTV would catch the shenanigans and as there are notices to it's use would be used in evidence to the police, if they damaged my property by forcing the locked gates.

You really don't understand PPC's at all do you? Clampers do not go around looking for private land and clamping people. They are contracted to do so by the landowner or person who has authority to instruct them to do so. If the parking areas that you are permitted to use have been placed under the control of a PPC, they have been done so at the request of that authorised person, and all residents will be informed of that. If you have exclusive rights to a parking area then no one can clamp you, it's yours.

Landowners or those with authority, contract PPC's because they have a need to regulate parking, and residents all benefit from that regulation. In return, they are asked to keep to the rules of the PPC, it's not much to ask.

chrisspectre

blarb wrote: »

@chrisspectre,
why is it that only one person has ever thanked you for a reply?

I didn't come here looking for thanks, i came here because i saw all the bad advice being given to the original poster.
I notice how the OP has not commented, even long before i started posting, giving the impression that to him the thred is dead. All that's left is people who believe they are right in giving wrong advice, but with every post they make they demonstrate a clear misunderstanding of the PPC business. It's there to protect land owners rights and residents parking spaces, but can only work if everyone co-operates.
If someone is required to display a permit and doesn't, they have broken the rules, it's simple. What you have to understand is that PPC's don't get paid to regulate parking, they offer that service free. So all residents will always have a place to park. If the resident fails to display, then the ppc has no way of knowing if a vehicle should be there or not, and it's not their job to find out.
They incur costs every time they clamp/tow, and if it's the residents fault why should they pay?

chrisspectre

trisontana wrote: »

I have modified it for you.

And very soon i will leave you eating your words. When i say i can't now, it's because i have my reasons which will be made clear when i make you eat your words.

trisontana

chrisspectre wrote: »

And very soon i will leave you eating your words. When i say i can't now, it's because i have my reasons which will be made clear when i make you eat your words.

Is that referring to all those mythical motorists who are supposed park on people's drives? I'm not holding my breath.

esmerobbo

chrisspectre The bets due!!!!! Pay cancer research £50 and post the receipt up,or I will send a clamper around!;)

robredz

@ chrisspectre

"Landowners or those with authority, contract PPC's because they have a need to regulate parking, and residents all benefit from that regulation. In return, they are asked to keep to the rules of the PPC, it's not much to ask."

You mean the rules they make up as they go along, or the ones they deem to be terms of a contract in small print on an obscured sign 8 feet up. Or they canvass managing agents who unilaterally bring in a ppcto solve the problem the ppc assures them they have with "illegal" (in their own minds ) parking. they then talk about fines and penalties that are unenforceable, due to the penalty not reflecting any real consequential loss, and then annoy and infuriate the residents who are up in arms and baying for the managing agent's blood, when the health visitor attending a resident is clamped for not displaying a visitors permit and the ppc tows her car......
You are trying to justify that which you cannot.

Zamzara

chrisspectre wrote: »

Everyone who has been clamped, ticketted or towed by a genuine ppc has parked on private land where unauthorised parking is not allowed.

Right, like the OP in this thread whose daughter was clamped in her own parking space. And then threatened with having her car towed for non-payment, even though the company knew by then that she was entitled to be there and was no longer even in breach of the terms.

I'm also wondering at what point, following the criteria in Vine v Waltham Forest, someone unintentionally forgetting to display a permit consents to being clamped?

Coupon-mad

chrisspectre wrote: »

And very soon i will leave you eating your words. When i say i can't now, it's because i have my reasons which will be made clear when i make you eat your words.

Hmmm...we shall see...but it seems today your 'clamper-sized' attention span of a pea has forgotten who you are supposed to be on here, did you forget:

chrisspectre wrote: »

As for Perky, no you've still got it wrong. If you must know, I'm a web developer not a bloomin clamper, but i have worked for the appeals department of a ppc in the past.

Yeah right...! :rotfl:

esmerobbo

chrisspectre, and a couple of other posters here bang on about people parking their cars on someone's land and not giving a toss, in the real world does anybody see this?
Most of the posts regarding clamping are for not displaying, not for abusing, most of the people clamped had a right to be there! Then we have the people who may stop on someone's land to run into a shop or as we have seen pick someone up and is clamped as soon as they stop. Technically they were trespassing but they would probably have been there for a few minutes. Clamping them adds to the problem because they cant move from the spot they are supposed to be abusing.
I believe it is perfectly right that a landowner should be able to stop people parking on their land, I even believe clamping is a way to do it [Ducks] but the clampers were given a free hand and they took the pizz.

They had their chance and the vast majority seen it as a chance to rip people off, and they did!

The only real abuse I see are lazy gits who park in child and parent or disabled bays, people with big cars who park over two bays. I don't see this wholesale parking on other peoples property the way certain people say it is!

Ohh and I am talking as someone who has had business's with car parks, which have had people park when they shouldn't and even abandon vehicles in them, so I know they are a nuisance!