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Car clamped in own space!!

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,856 Forumite
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    Here's an example: If you parked your car on a red route and got towed away, fined and whatever else they might throw at you, you wouldn't expect to complain.




    You don't go on pepipoo much then - the answer is YES we would complain and appeal, vociferously! Most Councils muck up most PCN/tow cases and why would anyone not appeal when the GENUINE facility to appeal is there, the Council already has their money and most cases can be overturned (Council cases).

    And we do not condone bad parking, would not intentionally stop on a red route any more than we would park on private land where parking was not allowed.

    We simply tell people like it is - the UK absolutely does NOT need scum private knuckle-dragging clampers at all. :mad:
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    I can give you examples, but i cannot give you examples now. Be patient and i will eventually make things up.

    I have modified it for you.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Kite2010
    Kite2010 Posts: 4,308 Forumite
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    I can give you examples, but i cannot give you examples now. Be patient and i will eventually make things a bit more clearer.

    Correction

    I can give you examples when I make some examples up from my rear end.

  • And we do not condone bad parking, would not intentionally stop on a red route any more than we would park on private land where parking was not allowed.

    We simply tell people like it is - the UK absolutely does NOT need scum private knuckle-dragging clampers at all. :mad:

    I've never heard so much self righteous b/s as I have here. Let me remind you that ALL ppc's operate on private land. Everyone who has been clamped, ticketted or towed by a genuine ppc has parked on private land where unauthorised parking is not allowed.

    Quite simply, the landowner does not want unauthorised vehicles on his land, has made this perfectly clear through sufficient and adequate signage, and has enlisted a ppc to remove any unauthorised vehicles from his land.

    And you're insisting that land owner should have no right to do so.
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    I've never heard so much self righteous b/s as I have here. Let me remind you that ALL ppc's operate on private land. Everyone who has been clamped, ticketted or towed by a genuine ppc has parked on private land where unauthorised parking is not allowed.

    Quite simply, the landowner does not want unauthorised vehicles on his land, has made this perfectly clear through sufficient and adequate signage, and has enlisted a ppc to remove any unauthorised vehicles from his land.

    And you're insisting that land owner should have no right to do so.

    Except that most PPC tickets are issued to people who are invited to park on that land (customers of supermarkets and retail parks) . Because they then break the PPC's silly "rules" - such as staying an extra few minutes, having a wheel touch a white line or parking in the "wrong" sort of bay , then they get one of these unenforceable invoices.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • robredz
    robredz Posts: 1,602 Forumite
    edited 10 September 2011 at 8:55AM
    It's absolutely NOT poppycock and a good percentage of clamped vehicles are those parked in homeowners private drives.

    So you are saying that in a residents parking area where your pals prowl, I go out, as I work a fair way away, but a mate works nearby, and cannot park near the workplace round the corner, so I allow him the use of my drive, which BTW is obviously off road and MY PROPERTY and you have no right to enforce diddly on it; in working hours, knowing he will be gone when I return, and furthermore it prevents someone randomly parking there notwithstanding randomers don't have a key for the gates......

    But you would say he would have to buy a visitors permit, !!!!!! to park in someones private property over which the Parking scheme has NO JURISDICICTION, in that scenario the clamp could lawfully be cut off and tossed back at the clampers

    You would clamp his motor 'cos he isn't displaying a permit in MY drive?

    Again, my motor is in for service, I park a courtesy car in my drive, so you would clamp that also?

    Sorry you appear to be on planet PPC not the really real world. Oh also my CCTV would catch the shenanigans and as there are notices to it's use would be used in evidence to the police, if they damaged my property by forcing the locked gates.
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
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    It's absolutely NOT poppycock and a good percentage of clamped vehicles are those parked in homeowners private drives.

    Garbage and illegal unless warning signs are in place!

    Plus a PPC could not remove a car from someone's drive, that would be TWOC. You would have to go through the abandoned vehicle process to get it moved.
    I have never had one on my drive but had a couple in my business car park and I can tell you it is a long process to remove them legally!

    However I have never heard of anyone parking on someone's drive except for clampers saying they do.
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
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    I've never heard so much self righteous b/s as I have here. Let me remind you that ALL ppc's operate on private land. Everyone who has been clamped, ticketted or towed by a genuine ppc has parked on private land where unauthorised parking is not allowed.

    Quite simply, the landowner does not want unauthorised vehicles on his land, has made this perfectly clear through sufficient and adequate signage, and has enlisted a ppc to remove any unauthorised vehicles from his land.

    And you're insisting that land owner should have no right to do so.

    I have never received a PPC ticket or ever been clamped, I have had two PPC invoices for vehicles I am the RK of being parked and overstaying. In legitimate car parks invited by the landowner and using the facilities of the site!
    Your description of clampers is defiantly seen through rose tinted glasses. I agree landowners should have recourse for abusive parking, and don't have much sympathy for an abuser who gets clamped. However these parasites are brought in and they use entrapment, intimidation, and threats to extort money from people.
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    OP,

    I would also in your appeal to the building management company (and subsequently to the court that you take them to) make the point that conditions have to be fair and reasonable to tennants. A condition that the only way of not being clamped is to display a permit is lacking in foresight and is unreasonable. They could for example very simply and easily also have a list of registered vehicle registration numbers against which a clamper will be expected to check before clamping any vehicle. and/or on production of a valid permit release the clamp without charge.
  • @chrisspectre,
    why is it that only one person has ever thanked you for a reply?
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