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neverdespairgirl wrote: »Actually, from the sentence, I'm assuming it definitely wasn't a first offence. But I don't know.
Cheers, it is good to have some info from the coal face. I have known at least one family who have drug problems with their offspring and they have been begging the judiciary to give a custodial, just to break the cycle of offending, to them it seemed that their child would have to go for the crown jewels before they were properly dealt with.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Sorry Graham, speeding is a crime. If there was no speeding, thousands of people less would die on the roads. But people still do it.
I doubt that very much.
In 2009, the last year for which I could find figures, just over 2,000 people died on the UK's road, including pedestrians and cyclists.
If speeding was responsible for every single one of those deaths, "thousands" would sound hyperbolic, but technically true. As it's very unlikely that if everyone kept to the speed limit, road deaths would be nil, what you are saying is most improbable.
In fact, speeding is a factor in between 3% and 25% of accidents, depending on who you ask....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Burglary and robbery are two different crimes, someone may steal a CD in both cases, but burglary holds a much stiffer sentence as you're breaking into someones home.
Actually, robbery is the more serious of those two offences, in law!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
But that is the point I am making, drug dealers are not dealt with harshly because there are too many of them and too few places in the slammer.
IMHO, drug dealers are dealt with extremely harshly!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
And wouldn't we love to see his expenses and tax returns. Perhaps they'll surface one day.Graham_Devon wrote: »Cameron was director of a media company for 7 years."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »I doubt that very much.
In 2009, the last year for which I could find figures, just over 2,000 people died on the UK's road, including pedestrians and cyclists.
If speeding was responsible for every single one of those deaths, "thousands" would sound hyperbolic, but technically true. As it's very unlikely that if everyone kept to the speed limit, road deaths would be nil, what you are saying is most improbable.
In fact, speeding is a factor in between 3% and 25% of accidents, depending on who you ask.
Still, a minimum of 60 people dead just because of speeding is quite sad
ironically there are probably quite a high proportion of those killed at the lower end 30-40. 'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »IMHO, drug dealers are dealt with extremely harshly!
For example? the only one I am personally aware of received two years, I don't know, is that harsh?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »Actually, robbery is the more serious of those two offences, in law!
I noticed from that 'be a judge' that I linked to above, that includes mugging on the street that can include all sorts of nasty stuff.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Cheers, it is good to have some info from the coal face. I have known at least one family who have drug problems with their offspring and they have been begging the judiciary to give a custodial, just to break the cycle of offending, to them it seemed that their child would have to go for the crown jewels before they were properly dealt with.
The reason I say that it's improbable that you'd get a 5 month sentence for a first offence of handling stolen goods with an immediate guilty plea is that it's way outside the sentencing guidelines - and I mean waaaaay outside.
For a low-value (under a grand) handling where the property was for the Defendant's own use, you'd expect a fine on a not guilty plea for a first offence. Possible aggravating factors in this case include the rioting and close connection between the thief and the Defendant, but even so, on a G plea, I can't see that being a prison sentence at all on a first offence, let alone a 5 month sentence.
The Court of Appeal case setting guidelines for handling suggests a 12 week sentence for a first time offender if it's sophisticated, involves being a "fence", advertising oneself as handling, doing it for profit, organinsing the thieving, armed robbery handling - that type of thing.
I should make it clear I know nothing about this case. I just estimate she must have a list of previous you could bash someone over the head with (-:...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Still, a minimum of 60 people dead just because of speeding is quite sad ironically there are probably quite a high proportion of those killed at the lower end 30-40.
that doesn't follow - being a factor isn't the same as being the only cause....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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