Grabbit While You Can

liam8282

BTW anybody know the whereabouts of a certain Martin Lewis recently?

He hasn't been on the streets of London, Birmingham, Manchester, etc. by any chance?

Surely he must be the king looter / rioter if we are comparing the riots with the grabbits board on his site.

Anybody know what riots he has organised through his twitter page? :money:

Money_maker

lisyloo wrote: »

No difference in my mind between putting on a hoodie to steal something and using a false email address.

Sorry but this sounds to me like fruitcake quote of the week.

Depends how you view things personally. I have used false email addresses (tesco dtd so I could submit more than 10 receipts in a month). Have no idea what the groupon discussion is about. But I would not put on a hoodie and steal something.

I would be seriously worried about someone who considered these two as being equal in severity.

Jennifer_Jane

lisyloo wrote: »

No difference in my mind between putting on a hoodie to steal something and using a false email address.

I'm not holier than thou either, just trying to be a decent human being.

I wonder if those who think it's ok to take from unsecure shops/websites, think it's ok to steal from someone injured (that did happen during the looting), after it's their fault for leaving their possessions vulnerable isn't it??

Now comparing the glitch people with the vile yobbos and scum who did this. Lisyloo, are you just winding people up? Cannot believe, in your heart of hearts, that you mean this.

jetty

Wow, what a thread!!! To the person who said about the glitches not harming companies, this may be the case, but it's about morals - the people who have boxes and boxes of tins of food in their garages for nothing from tesco? I'm all for a deal or promotion, and even a freebie which is genuine, but to go and grab loads of tins that were not suppose to be free, that would play on my mind!

I can see where the op's coming from, but it was a bit daft to word it the way you worded it! As for the whole breaking in your house debate, i think it's really weird that someone would blame themselves for not locking a door than blame the person who stole from you, why assume that people have the right to take from you just because you left something open or unlocked. I'm shocked by this, and the state of the country. I was brought up to treat people how i want to be treated, and i am teaching my kids the same, but it's incredibly hard when they see the carp on TV of real violence and greed. And we thought violent films were harmful to kids, all the have to do now is turn on their tv and see something much worse.

*jumps off the soapbox*

nancmat

Umm seems some things have been taken out of contex.. if I left my house door open by mistake and then my goods were stolen, I would have to take some of the blame surely? Luckily I live in an area with very low crime rates and often do leave my front door open whilst in the house because I make that judgement it is safe to do so. (Note this isn't anything to do with the looting that is a different terrible matter)

Getting back to what this is about if you feel the grabbits are wrong, then don't partake!

Anyway.. I actually have some real paid work to do so I can then spend my own money on whatever I like.. wonder if the Tesco pasta sauce is still 18p or if it's jumped to 34p today??

anneliza

Do people deliberately set out to willfully misunderstand what I was trying to say??

Of course I did not mean "just" looting, I was trying to distinguish between the people who took advantage of the insecure properties (caused by the rioters) and "filled their boots" with everything they could. I fully understand the ramifications of the appalling things that people did have done.

anneliza

lisyloo

lisyloo - in the name of decency, please do not compare glitches with the looting/rioting.

I have not done so.
I've made one reference to an injured person to try to understand where those who think it's ok to rob the unprotected draw the line or to point out the flaw in their argument.

I can only assume you haven't thought this through.

I can only assume you haven't read MY posts.
I have made no comaprison to reference/looting save one reference to robbing an injured person to try to find where other draw the line if they think it's ok to rob houses left open by mistake or businesses with a loophole by mistake.

There's one thing to be 'immoral' - if that's really what you think of people taking advantage of glitches, with the downright thuggish criminals who damaged, looted, and razed homes, cars, property, and businesses to the ground.
Quite frankly, I think your ideas are shameful and woeful.

I really don't think you've read my posts.
I am not one of the people making that comparison.
I don't mind my ideas/opinions being criticised but that is not a comparison that I personally hasve made (and I have checked all my posts).

lisyloo

Sorry but this sounds to me like fruitcake quote of the week.

Why?
Are you saying stealing on line is ok if you aren't doing it in person?

I would be seriously worried about someone who considered these two as being equal in severity.

I don't know about the example you refer to, but the point I'm trying to make is that being anonymous doesn't make the theft right.

lisyloo

Now comparing the glitch people with the vile yobbos and scum who did this. Lisyloo, are you just winding people up? Cannot believe, in your heart of hearts, that you mean this.

No I really am trying to point out the flaw in the agument.
One poster earlier said that if they left their door unlocked (by mistake) then it would be their fault if they got burgled. It's ok for the burglar to burgle them.
I see a flaw in this argument that I'm trying to point out.

Taking it further if you fall over is it ok for someone to mugg you and it's you fault for falling over?

To me it's an extension of the logic/morality and that's exactly what's being pointed out. Thin end of the wedge.

a) if a business fails to protect themselves they are fair game to steal from.
b) if you accidently don't lock a window your home is fair game.
c) If you fall over or get injured or faint - are you now fair game for being mugged.

please tell me where those of you who believe in a) draw the line.
No it's not a windup, I'm trying to point out the flaw in your "morality".

Morally it's an extension of the same thing.

nancmat

Lisyloo... where did i say it would be my fault.. i just said I wouldn't expect sympathy (from you) because I am responsible for my own actions. Where did I say it was ok for the burglar to burgle me if they got in through a window/door I had accidently left open?

Try putting all of your morals to use and get out on the streets of London, Birmingham etc and clean-up... or move on from the grabbits and ignore.. or even better you could make notes of all the grabbits and feel it's your moral duty to contact each company and inform them of their glitch/errors online because YOU feel they are not protecting themselves.