General discussion for (Tottenham) riots

toadyfrog

We call them Rozzers, watching too much top gear i think

setmefree2

Originally Posted by neverdespairgirl
I don't have much sympathy for a bloke carrying a gun if he gets shot by the police.

And anyone who tals about the "Feds" following him is clearly a few sandwiches short of a picnic. He doesn't know what country he's in!

I'm quoting a quote - I haven't read the whole thread - but I so agree with NDG. It wasn't like he was young either 29 !!!!!!. If you carry a gun you have to assume you are going to use it.

lostinrates

setmefree2 wrote: »

I actually think they should bring back stocks so we can chuck tomatoes and eggs, etc... does that make me old? a bad person?

100s and 100s of youth/scum in clapham

I wouldn't want to become the person who enjoyed throwing stuff at people. What would that make the rest of us? It wouldn't be a society I wanted to live in, [people I want to live amoung. If the ''good'' are vengful thugs too, what hope do we have?

fc123

toadyfrog wrote: »

I was meaning chained at the ankles really tightly too. It may not be a great solution, but I would like to see it.

...I am not digging you out here but it can't be done....even if you would just like to see it. It wouldn't solve anything and one way to make an angry mean person angrier and meaner is to humiliate them as a type of punishment.
Please don't think I am namby pamby but sweeping 'chain em up' 'send em to war' type statements aren't the soloution.

The bulk of those involved are doing it for 'the crack', the bravado, fuelled by adrenalin/testosterone. I think it's awful (esp for businesses/individuals hurtt by it like the poor Reeves shop that got burnt out) but these riots require an organiser/s to get things going and they are the ones that will be well out of the way if the police swoop and make arrests.

devotee

lostinrates wrote: »

You see, I have always thought the solution was simpler. Orange jump suits have become very popular in some music cultures....so I thought...what couldn't be so....

I think the answer is either a grown up sized nappy, or tighty whities. *

* this is in a fictional world......I would only half enjoy seeing this come to pass.

I actually think their are two powerful tools, stigma and financial (encompassing food, where you sleep, your choices). I can't help feeling that if people cannot make responsible choices we should for them if their choices result in harm to others. So, crisps, fine for the non criminal, but convicted of a crime....muesli bar...at a time dolled out byt the state. Living becomes a single room in a hostel, meals provided.

Sort of...prison without the frills!

(this is all highly unrealistic, but you know....better than chain gangs.)

A pudding bowl haircut and something like a nappy to wear would be great! One can dream

adouglasmhor

Procrastinator333 wrote: »

Problem = scumbags.

Solution = All riot police issued following and free reign to administer as required.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1262215/Super-Taser-shotgun-bullet-assessed-Home-Office.html

Job done.

Didn't work on Raoul Moat.

fc123

A._Badger wrote: »

Well, yes, but it doesn't seem to have stopped the Somalians exporting the worst of their vermin to us, does it?

eh ???? ???

setmefree2

lostinrates wrote: »

I wouldn't want to become the person who enjoyed throwing stuff at people. What would that make the rest of us? It wouldn't be a society I wanted to live in, [people I want to live amoung. If the ''good'' are vengful thugs too, what hope do we have?

Oh come on - it's only a few tomatoes these people/youth/scum are happy to burn old people to death!

devotee

fc123 wrote: »

......it's just not a practical solution this......I don't think the Somalian Govt would want our problem citizens either. Why would they? Bit insulting to them to assume that they would welcome them over.

Loads of them in London, we could do a swap?

misskool

fc123 wrote: »

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The bulk of those involved are doing it for 'the crack', the bravado, fuelled by adrenalin/testosterone. I think it's awful (esp for businesses/individuals hurtt by it like the poor Reeves shop that got burnt out) but these riots require an organiser/s to get things going and they are the ones that will be well out of the way if the police swoop and make arrests.

I don't think that's the case though, the lure of getting something for free seems to be a strong trend. Many photos of people looting goods.

Just on BBC News, everyone is smashing in shops and carrying as much as they can.