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DLA Troubles - ATOS liars!

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  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    You could just answer the question and then that'll stop you from being asked. Or don't you have the courage to do that?
    It's your choice to keep asking, just as it's mine not to post all kinds of personal information about my experience. Common sense to anyone who doesn't need allowances made as above.
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Fridge3 wrote: »
    It's your choice to keep asking, just as it's mine not to post all kinds of personal information about my experience. Common sense to anyone who doesn't need allowances made as above.

    Then that would automatically cancel out any credibility you have to call into question anyone else's more informed/experienced perceptions of Atoss.

    Unless you would like to state what your own experience of these assessments is - then that would add substantial credibility to what you have to say on the subject.

    If you consider yourself more informed than others about the process involved, then what's the problem with stating why you do think that?

    But until then, we'll just have to assume that you're simply a bigot shilling for Atoss.

    I'm not stating that as a fact, you understand - just that the inability to answer a perfectly straight question reeks of Atoss all over.

    But when you say 'personal information', I take it that you mean information that compromises your identity - which I don't recall ever asking you to reveal.
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    Then that would automatically cancel out any credibility you have to call into question anyone else's more informed/experienced perceptions of Atoss.

    Unless you would like to state what your own experience of these assessments is - then that would add substantial credibility to what you have to say on the subject.

    If you consider yourself more informed than others about the process involved, then what's the problem with stating why you do think that?

    But until then, we'll just have to assume that you're simply a bigot shilling for Atoss.

    I'm not stating that as a fact, you understand - just that the inability to answer a perfectly straight question reeks of Atoss all over.

    But when you say 'personal information', I take it that you mean information that compromises your identity - which I don't recall ever asking you to reveal.

    To me, the part you quoted, this part
    It's your choice to keep asking, just as it's mine not to post all kinds of personal information about my experience. Common sense to anyone who doesn't need allowances made as above.

    when taken into consideration with the statement the poster has not 'used' atos (so therefore not a claimaint), and the fact the first statement is clearly stating they do have experience of it, shows to me, they must be working for atos, or the dwp, or tribunal service, or some other organisation, or body involved in the process.

    Unless someone else can explain an alernative, if your not a claimaint, and you have 'all kinds of personal information' about your experience of ATOS benefit assessments?
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    edited 14 August 2011 at 11:00AM
    cit_k wrote: »
    To me, the part you quoted, this part



    when taken into consideration with the statement the poster has not 'used' atos (so therefore not a claimaint), and the fact the first statement is clearly stating they do have experience of it, shows to me, they must be working for atos, or the dwp, or tribunal service, or some other organisation, or body involved in the process.

    Unless someone else can explain an alernative, if your not a claimaint, and you have 'all kinds of personal information' about your experience of ATOS benefit assessments?

    Well, it would have to be Atoss - the guy spends far too much time obsessively defending them for it to be anyone else.

    I've said it before - classic case of a call-jockey who's spent far too long in the job.

    Thus, he takes his job far too seriously - to the point where he feels compelled to defend the company against even the mildest form of criticism.

    A 'live to work' type, rather than 'work to live' - I feel sorry for him in a way, but not too much.
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    Couldnt be bothered reading any of the thread but I take it this is another whinge about not being given other peoples tax money?
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »

    A 'live to work' type, rather than 'work to live' - I feel sorry for him in a way, but not too much.

    Better than "living while everyone else works"!
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    NASA wrote: »
    Couldnt be bothered reading any of the thread but I take it this is another whinge about not being given other peoples tax money?

    No. It's a thread about Atoss lying - again.
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Better than "living while everyone else works"!

    Everyone else isn't working though.
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    Then that would automatically cancel out any credibility you have to call into question anyone else's more informed/experienced perceptions of Atoss.

    Unless you would like to state what your own experience of these assessments is - then that would add substantial credibility to what you have to say on the subject.

    If you consider yourself more informed than others about the process involved, then what's the problem with stating why you do think that?

    But until then, we'll just have to assume that you're simply a bigot shilling for Atoss.

    I'm not stating that as a fact, you understand - just that the inability to answer a perfectly straight question reeks of Atoss all over.

    But when you say 'personal information', I take it that you mean information that compromises your identity - which I don't recall ever asking you to reveal.
    Personal information need not necessarily be mine and can include others' personal information. Not a good idea to reveal such things on a forum, FB etc, I'm sure you'll agree, especially when specifics may make certain individuals identifiable. You keep responding on behalf of cit who's managed to grasp it's quite possible to have experience without being a claimant, indeed listed possibilities on a couple of occasions. Perhaps he could translate for you?
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    Everyone else isn't working though.
    No, but in context of this thread, 93% are identified as capable of some work. As you suggest, perhaps attitude is a barrier to working in some cases.
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