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DLA Troubles - ATOS liars!

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  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    Yes, business interests mean they have to be biased - their chief interest is the client, not the patient, because it's the client who pays them.

    So, whatever the client says, is what goes.
    You have evidence of business interests being biased? In the absence of any evidence it appears to be only your opinion which of course it is. Unless you have any evidence......

    That and the fact atos are bound by regulations that state the contrary.
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    Depends on who's doing the vetting. Atoss' vetting clearly needs looking at.
    But then those doing the vetting require competencies suitable to allow them to carry out appropriate selection.

    Selection that requires the medical competencies in the job description to be met before being able to carry out esa assessments.

    What evidence do you have to suggest Atoss' vetting clearly needs looking at? Clearly would suggest this evidence is readily available. Strange then, it's not referenced.
  • I'm clueless about blogs - can't work out how to start a blog, so piggybacked onto this one - sorry. Also clueless about money matters. Need advice.

    I have a 25 yr Life policy for £27,000 which is due to mature in just over 2 years. I've been told by the company now that, while the surrender value would be about £14,000, the maturity value would be £32-35,000. Is this likely, in this day and age? Is it likely there would be such a huge difference between the one and the other? This policy was taken out to cover a mortgage and I've been getting told over the years, like so many others, that the policy was unlikely to cover the original amount.

    Any advice welcome. Thanks
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Fridge3 wrote: »
    OK, you don't agree. But it's a fact they're there to contribute to benefits eligability by way of assessment, not cure or even diagnose medical conditions, rather assess what can be done in relation to working.

    No, it's not a fact - but what's your own experience of these assessments that enables you to state it as fact?

    Fridge3 wrote: »
    You appear not to like this fact, don't you?

    Because it's not a fact. But what's your own experience of these assessments that enables you to state it as fact?
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Fridge3 wrote: »
    You have evidence of business interests being biased? In the absence of any evidence it appears to be only your opinion which of course it is. Unless you have any evidence.......

    Covered already. But what hasn't been covered already is what your own experience of these assessments is.

    Fridge3 wrote: »
    That and the fact atos are bound by regulations that state the contrary.

    Which regulations in particular are you referring to? Do you have experience in working with these regulations, especially in relation to whatever your own experience with those assessments are?
  • FTW
    FTW Posts: 8,682 Forumite
    Fridge3 wrote: »
    But then those doing the vetting require competencies suitable to allow them to carry out appropriate selection.

    Such as? Is experience of assessments one of them?

    Fridge3 wrote: »
    Selection that requires the medical competencies in the job description to be met before being able to carry out esa assessments.

    Experience of assessments wouldn't be one of them, would it? Is that experience that you have?

    Fridge3 wrote: »
    What evidence do you have to suggest Atoss' vetting clearly needs looking at? Clearly would suggest this evidence is readily available. Strange then, it's not referenced.

    Nice to see you're now calling them Atoss as well - must be catching.:D

    What evidence do you have in relation to what the assessment process is like/involves? Do you have experience of these assessments?
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    No, it's not a fact

    Because it's not a fact.
    Facts you don't wish to hear. Nevertheless they are facts.
    FTW wrote: »
    Covered already.
    But not evidenced.
    FTW wrote: »
    Which regulations in particular are you referring to?
    The ones stated in the earlier reference. I'll let you read them in your own time.
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    FTW wrote: »
    Such as? Is experience of assessments one of them?
    It is not necessarily a prerequisite in selection processes for the panel to have the same skills as the candidates they are vetting. An understanding of the job objectives and selection against those would suffice. That said many panelists would also have the skills and prerequisites of the job they are selecting for.
    FTW wrote: »
    Nice to see you're now calling them Atoss as well - must be catching.:D
    Merely a cut and paste of your bile. Not that you'd understand the inference, even if spelt out for you again.

    Hope not. I wouldn't wish to catch such a bad dose of spewed up bitterness hated and bile.
  • erdd2
    erdd2 Posts: 1,070 Forumite
    Atos in my experience were brill.....courteous, respectful, polite, welcoming....as stated......my experience
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