Ryanair - which airports do they allow duty free bag PLUS hand luggage

lowcostripoff

jaytar wrote: »

This can definitely be done at Bristol and there are big signs outside of the shops to inform people. I checked with three separate Ryanair employees who all informed me that they do have an agreement with the shops that this can be done.

We both took carrier bags through which were pretty full of toiletries and food, yet they made a lady standing next to us put her very small handbag into her hand luggage !

Duty Free doesn't exist in The EU, it was abolished years ago, so whatever you buy is not duty free anyway and if you are buying booze almost all Spanish airports now sell duty free on arrival anyway. If you are going to the Canaries you can buy onboard. Fags and booze are the only really bulky items and they are cheaper in Southern Europe, so buy when you get there.

phatbear

lowcostripoff wrote: »

Duty Free doesn't exist in The EU, it was abolished years ago, so whatever you buy is not duty free anyway and if you are buying booze almost all Spanish airports now sell duty free on arrival anyway. If you are going to the Canaries you can buy onboard. Fags and booze are the only really bulky items and they are cheaper in Southern Europe, so buy when you get there.

Wow what truly pointless post.

Duty free does exsist in the eu, for instance if you flew from stansted to oslo you would buy duty free, but you're still in the eu!

So the only bulky items are booze and fags? I'll try and remember that next time i see someone at the airport when they've just bought a ps3 or apple mac or jacket from hackett etc etc etc

ScottySmog

phatbear wrote: »

Duty free does exsist in the eu, for instance if you flew from stansted to oslo you would buy duty free, but you're still in the eu!

Norway is not in the E.U. It is in the EEA however.

Just re-read your post Phatbear and now understand the point you are making - my apologies!

lowcostripoff

phatbear wrote: »

Wow what truly pointless post.

Duty free does exsist in the eu, for instance if you flew from stansted to oslo you would buy duty free, but you're still in the eu!

So the only bulky items are booze and fags? I'll try and remember that next time i see someone at the airport when they've just bought a ps3 or apple mac or jacket from hackett etc etc etc

Nothing you buy when travelling from one EU Country to another is either tax-free or duty free, it doesn't exist anymore. You cannot buy fags leaving the UK and who would want to when they are the same price as the high street, same for booze... so the pointless activity is buying duty free in Europe when leaving the Uk and Ireland.. in which case, there is no need to carry it onboard. Electircal goods are cheaper on the high street... and anyway, these people may not be travelling with Ryanair or to an EU country. For Norway, which as stated is not in the EU you can buy duty free at arrival.

phatbear

lowcostripoff wrote: »

Nothing you buy when travelling from one EU Country to another is either tax-free or duty free, it doesn't exist anymore. You cannot buy fags leaving the UK and who would want to when they are the same price as the high street, same for booze... so the pointless activity is buying duty free in Europe when leaving the Uk and Ireland.. in which case, there is no need to carry it onboard. Electircal goods are cheaper on the high street... and anyway, these people may not be travelling with Ryanair or to an EU country. For Norway, which as stated is not in the EU you can buy duty free at arrival.

I guess everyone has the right to be wrong but you are starting to abuse that right!

You can buy fags leaving the UK as previously stated if you flew out of an EU airport to a non eu state you could buy cigs outbound.

And regarding your statement about electrical goods being cheaper on the highstreet you are again very wrong, after all apple goods are price fixed yet you get a discount at the airport for the same item therefore the cheapest place to buy apple goods in the UK is......................(drum roll please)..................an airport.

lowcostripoff

phatbear wrote: »

I guess everyone has the right to be wrong but you are starting to abuse that right!

You can buy fags leaving the UK as previously stated if you flew out of an EU airport to a non eu state you could buy cigs outbound.

And regarding your statement about electrical goods being cheaper on the highstreet you are again very wrong, after all apple goods are price fixed yet you get a discount at the airport for the same item therefore the cheapest place to buy apple goods in the UK is......................(drum roll please)..................an airport.

I will continue to abuse the right... but I'll let you into a secret first... I worked in the cigarette and liquor business and duty free for 25 years, so I know the rules. You cannot buy cigarettes leaving the UK for another EU state, yes you can buy them to a non EU country, but mostly Ryanair does not go to non EU countries and the post was about what you can carry on board. This makes carrying duty free sales irrelevant to most of their destinations. What you buy in an EU airport (for intra-EU travel) is tax-paid or duty-paid or both! It may be cheaper, but this is because it is lower duty, but not duty free. With regard to electrical goods, firstly there is no "duty" on these goods at all, there is only duty on liquors and tobaccos. Electrical goods have only VAT on them and the price you pay, from a UK airport, is the same for EU or non-EU destinations. I don't use Apple, but what I do know is if you buy on the High Street and you are VAT registered, you can get the VAT back... in terms of most electrical goods I see in an airport, you can find them cheaper online at PC owrld for example. The UK is very cheap for electricals, probably only the US is cheaper. I don't do Hackett jackets, who would? Oh, and price fixing, as you claim, is illegal!

phatbear

Ahh well i guess i will bow down to your advanced knowledge after all who the hell am I? just mr run of the mill no idea what the hell im talking about etc etc.

Ohhh hang on i've just remembered im a serving customs officer, now UKBA officer, who spends a lot of their days dealing with issues including people attempting to purchase duty free goods when they have no right or they have the right but are abusing the system.

Your statement regarding "most ryanair not going to non eu countries" is'nt totally correct for instance at my airport alone they fly to 13'ish locations which would be entitled to purchase cigs/alcohol etc etc.

Im not going to get in to a pointless discussion about being vat registered etc, as (a) the vast majority of the travelling public are'nt, (b) its not relevant to the OP'ing.

So back on topic, my locations shops are currently warning passengers that their purchases may have to be put in their carry on baggage, however the implementation of this ruling boarding the aircraft seems to be at the whim of the gate staff

k3lvc

phatbear wrote: »

So back on topic, my locations shops are currently warning passengers that their purchases may have to be put in their carry on baggage, however the implementation of this ruling boarding the aircraft seems to be at the whim of the gate staff

And herein lies the issue - unless I'm mistaken (and to be fair it's not unknown) then these gate staff will have KPIs/SLAs agreed with the AIRLINE not the AIRPORT.

Unless MO'L of Ryanair has some cunning plan up his sleeve or is worried that East Midlands/Bristol/Liverpool are so important to him that he has to bend his T&C's for the outbound sector then I'd be dubious of any claims by an airport that overrules the T&C's you've agreed to when booking a ticket

lowcostripoff

Then, as a Customs Officer you would also know that "duty free" and what is claimed to be "tax-free" sales from EU airports, to other EU airports, is neither. In fact, the goods (non-excise dutiable) are are actually discounted and the VAT (Tax) is absorbed through a common declared agreement with HMRC, for those buying and travelling to EU destinations.. this is why tobaccos are not sold, as they cannot afford to absorb the duties nor on liquors to EU destinations. Alcohol (intra EU) is also tax-paid (duty and vat) and is usually sold as 70cl or 75cl, not Litres, so the price looks competitive against real duty free goods. Either way, if you travel non EU, with or without Ryanair, you can now buy on arrival, avoiding the problem. In Dubai for example, cigarettes are up to 50% cheaper than in UK airports for "real non EU duty free sales", liquor probably 25% cheaper. Ryanair claim that over 90% of their flights go to EU destinations, yo umust be the unlucky, or lucky 13! As you know, the Canaries is outside the EU Customs Union, even though it is part of Spain as are other territories like Samnaun, Ceuta, Melilla and The Channel Islands. How often do you allow people through from Norway with their "EU tax-paid" purchased goods? Ryanair only fly to 2 non EU countries, Morocco and Norway. The Canaries are in the EU, but duty free is permitted.

bagand96

Unless MO'L of Ryanair has some cunning plan up his sleeve or is worried that East Midlands/Bristol/Liverpool are so important to him that he has to bend his T&C's for the outbound sector then I'd be dubious of any claims by an airport that overrules the T&C's you've agreed to when booking a ticket

I think you may be a bit too cautious.

Yes, Ryanair T&Cs are very clear and very strict - one piece only. However, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that local agreements may have been struck? between the airline, retailers, airports and handling agents? Bristol, for example, have erected large signs displaying the fact that easyjet and Ryanair passengers can take the bag. These are official signs by the airport authority, that also use very large and prominent logos of said airlines. I doubt very much they are chancing it.

The strict one bag policy has probably had a big effect on retailer bottom line. And the airport authority have to look after the retailers as customers, as much as the airlines (they probably make far more money from the retailer than they do from Ryanair)

MOL may well give out the image that he is the big shot in European Aviation and that everyone plays by his rules or they F*** off. This is of course true in many cases. However, even MOL must admit that when you fly to any particular airport, it's the airport authority's trainset and they make the rules. In many cases he has just upped and left when it hasnt suited him However, using the examples of EMA/BRS/LPL they are all very successful and profitable bases for Ryanair. They wouldn't walk away just because the airport sets it's own rules on carry on bags and airside purchases. No man is a mountain.

One thing is for sure. These airports/retailers wouldn't be displaying signs if it wasn't the truth. For a multitude if reasons, they wouldn't last 5 minutes!

Thus could be a very useful thread without all the negativity and scare stories. If an airport is displaying notices, and people can report success, then job's a gudd'n!

It's fine at BRS by the way