benefit fraud

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kes123 wrote: »

Hi all, not sure if this is the right forum. I did yesterday start a thread on Debt relief orders.
Basically i am owed 15000 by someone i thought was a very close friend. They are refusing to pay me back and so I am thinking in my head. Ok if you want to be like that I will come down to there level.
report them for benefit fraud.
What would happen to someone who owned 1 house outright, owned 2 more houses and a piece of land with a small mortgage. But they were renting them out.
So she splits up with her partner they have two children. She then goes into rented accomodation and starts claiming council tax benefit, housing benefit, and also income support. Obviously not declaring all the properties that she owns. She has now been doing that for approx 9 years. eventually one house got repossessed but i think she got around 20k when that happened. this money was not delared. Sometime in 2008 another property and the land were repossessed and there was about 70k left over. She decided instead of splitting the 70k, and it was done through solicitors. He would keep the 70k and the other house that was left would be transferred over to her name outright.
Although all the paperwork was carried out she never got round to getting the deeds altered so 3 years later the house is still in joint names. She borrowed the money off me to re-fit the house and sell it. this was 2 years ago, but she has never yet tried to sell it, so it just sits there. she also owes approx 16k to banks and credit cards.

If I do report her what would be the outcome. Her children are now 16 and 25. She claims council tax benefit even though her eldest daughter still lives at home and is working and paying board.

I really hate to stoop so low as to report someone, but feel at this moment why should she not pay me and get away with all this.
comments please

why oh why oh bloody why do people repeatably come on here seeking "permission" to report "friends" for fraud
just get on with it fgs !!!

dafyguy

kes123 wrote: »

I have been advised to file a creditors petition with the county court.

Then you will rank as an unsecured creditor and probably get nowt.

Go another way, has you have been told to, make the debt a secured debt on a property with equity, then you will get your money back.

Then send as much info about them to the DWP & HMRC.

It's how you go about things that gets the result!

Hammyman

kes123 wrote: »

Hi all, not sure if this is the right forum. I did yesterday start a thread on Debt relief orders.
Basically i am owed 15000 by someone i thought was a very close friend. They are refusing to pay me back and so I am thinking in my head. Ok if you want to be like that I will come down to there level.
report them for benefit fraud.
What would happen to someone who owned 1 house outright, owned 2 more houses and a piece of land with a small mortgage. But they were renting them out.

Nothing if the expenses are equal or more than the income or the profit is already being declared.

kes123

I have now taken legl action against this person and made a full report to the DWP regarding all matters.
I gave them load of info, but to be honest they just didn't seem interested. The person is still living in there house paid for by housing benefit. Still receiving full benefits.

We now have to go into somekind of mediation before the court will set a date, its the rules. Even though mediation is never going to work.

Anubis_2

kes123 wrote: »

I have now taken legl action against this person and made a full report to the DWP regarding all matters.
I gave them load of info, but to be honest they just didn't seem interested. The person is still living in there house paid for by housing benefit. Still receiving full benefits.

We now have to go into somekind of mediation before the court will set a date, its the rules. Even though mediation is never going to work.

When did you report them? It can take quite a few months for the DWP to collect evidence based on your claims before action is taken. They have to have proof, they can't just automatically act on information and take it as gospel, they need to investigate themselves.

kes123

Reported about 6 weeks ago. i gave them loads of info including title deed numbers for the property. How much they paid and when.

Also info on other properties that they owned while claiming.

Just have to see what happens