benefit fraud

kes123

Hi all, not sure if this is the right forum. I did yesterday start a thread on Debt relief orders.
Basically i am owed 15000 by someone i thought was a very close friend. They are refusing to pay me back and so I am thinking in my head. Ok if you want to be like that I will come down to there level.
report them for benefit fraud.
What would happen to someone who owned 1 house outright, owned 2 more houses and a piece of land with a small mortgage. But they were renting them out.
So she splits up with her partner they have two children. She then goes into rented accomodation and starts claiming council tax benefit, housing benefit, and also income support. Obviously not declaring all the properties that she owns. She has now been doing that for approx 9 years. eventually one house got repossessed but i think she got around 20k when that happened. this money was not delared. Sometime in 2008 another property and the land were repossessed and there was about 70k left over. She decided instead of splitting the 70k, and it was done through solicitors. He would keep the 70k and the other house that was left would be transferred over to her name outright.
Although all the paperwork was carried out she never got round to getting the deeds altered so 3 years later the house is still in joint names. She borrowed the money off me to re-fit the house and sell it. this was 2 years ago, but she has never yet tried to sell it, so it just sits there. she also owes approx 16k to banks and credit cards.

If I do report her what would be the outcome. Her children are now 16 and 25. She claims council tax benefit even though her eldest daughter still lives at home and is working and paying board.

I really hate to stoop so low as to report someone, but feel at this moment why should she not pay me and get away with all this.
comments please

dseventy

You should report her regardless of the fact she owes you money. Its ok to commit fraud until they upset you?

And frankly, if you knew how deceitful and dishonest she is, and the amount of money she has, why on earth did you lend her any money at all?

You deserve it.

D70

robpw2

kes123 wrote: »

Hi all, not sure if this is the right forum. I did yesterday start a thread on Debt relief orders.
Basically i am owed 15000 by someone i thought was a very close friend. They are refusing to pay me back and so I am thinking in my head. Ok if you want to be like that I will come down to there level.
report them for benefit fraud.
What would happen to someone who owned 1 house outright, owned 2 more houses and a piece of land with a small mortgage. But they were renting them out.
So she splits up with her partner they have two children. She then goes into rented accomodation and starts claiming council tax benefit, housing benefit, and also income support. Obviously not declaring all the properties that she owns. She has now been doing that for approx 9 years. eventually one house got repossessed but i think she got around 20k when that happened. this money was not delared. Sometime in 2008 another property and the land were repossessed and there was about 70k left over. She decided instead of splitting the 70k, and it was done through solicitors. He would keep the 70k and the other house that was left would be transferred over to her name outright.
Although all the paperwork was carried out she never got round to getting the deeds altered so 3 years later the house is still in joint names. She borrowed the money off me to re-fit the house and sell it. this was 2 years ago, but she has never yet tried to sell it, so it just sits there. she also owes approx 16k to banks and credit cards.

If I do report her what would be the outcome. Her children are now 16 and 25. She claims council tax benefit even though her eldest daughter still lives at home and is working and paying board.

I really hate to stoop so low as to report someone, but feel at this moment why should she not pay me and get away with all this.
comments please

what will happen you will ring the anonyomus number, they will investigate and she will get called in to an interview under caution and then they will decide if they have enough evidence to charge . one less criminal scrounging benefits.

you however will still not have your money that she owes and you will probbaly lose a "friend"

myone concern is that you seem to know an awful lot about this person and have untill know let them get away with it and now you choose cause your upset to do the right thing

Anubis_2

It is hard to say what will happen although do not expect something to happen overnight, as, if what you claim is true, I would imagine it is going to take time for them to investigate this and get all the evidence together, as it sounds a complicated set of affairs and the claim is long term.

As for council tax benefit - someone can still be entitled to it even with a non dependant working. I am not saying she is, I am just saying that people can still claim with their children working, although they may not get full rate.

jamespir

comments your childish if shes committing benefit fraud then why have you ignored it

make_me_wise

All sounds very far fetched to me. Think we are dealing with a troll

DorsetGirl_2

It sounds like you deserve each other!

relic

alreet our kes!

Dave101t

nasty, and stupid for lending £15k to anyone!

shegirl

I think you should be disgusted with yourself,not only because if she has been committing benefit fraud you've known about it for years but also because you want to get somebody in trouble because they won't pay you.

If her children are 16 and 25 why/how is she claiming income support?

FBaby

Can it really be the case that agencies can cross reference to such extent that they can pick up on over-payment of childcare fees of just a few 100s of pounds, but such overt benefit fraud could take place for years without anyone questionning anything? Without anyone reporting them for so long? I think I am just very naive....

Sounds to me like this 'friend' could very well be a family member...