Someone's Going To Get Stung

impy78

Moneyfornothing wrote:

So if I list a car and put the title as 'Ferrari F40' but in the listing I clearly put that it's just a scale model I would be breaking Ebay rules?

Yes, because the title would have to state that it is a scale model too.

uktim29

To be honest, I've only just seen this thread and haven't read all of it but my point of view is -

Ok I know what he's doing is wrong. But it doesn't take much reading to work out what it was your bidding on. Anyone who's bid on it is their own fault.

As for dyslexia, I know 2 dyslexic people who wouldn't have been fooled by this. It's not a case of being able to read, but knowing what it is your bidding on. If you can't read it or arn't sure.........DON'T BID!!!!!!

MickKnipfler

uktim29 wrote:

To be honest, I've only just seen this thread and haven't read all of it but my point of view is -

Ok I know what he's doing is wrong. But it doesn't take much reading to work out what it was your bidding on. Anyone who's bid on it is their own fault.

As for dyslexia, I know 2 dyslexic people who wouldn't have been fooled by this. It's not a case of being able to read, but knowing what it is your bidding on. If you can't read it or arn't sure.........DON'T BID!!!!!!

A reasonable point of view. However, that doesn't excuse the seller or Ebay for not doing more to stop "ill intended" auctions

Moneyfornothing_2

impy78 wrote:

Yes, because the title would have to state that it is a scale model too.

So I could bid on this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Maisto-Ferrari-F40_W0QQitemZ140069407884QQihZ004QQcategoryZ2509QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

......... and then complain if it is not a proper car because the title does NOT say it's a model. I am dyslexic and can't see photos clearly either so the seller must be at fault. :rolleyes:

It looks like another case of 'blame culture' ........ it's not my fault that I didn't read the auction it's the sellers. :rotfl:

codger

You could weep for the winning bidders of these listings in much the same way you could weep for those who follow a large sign reading WALK THIS WAY TO FALL OFF CLIFF.

The seller's message could not have been clearer.

MickKnipfler

codger wrote:

You could weep for the winning bidders of these listings in much the same way you could weep for those who follow a large sign reading WALK THIS WAY TO FALL OFF CLIFF.

The seller's message could not have been clearer.

But what was his intent?

Biggles

Yes, but what if his sign said
THIS WAY TO fall off CLIFF
that's how it works!

This thread's going round in circles, I think I'll move on. In a way everybody's right but eBay should really back up mislead buyers more than they do.

SmileBeHappy

MickKnipfler wrote:

But what was his intent?

Shockingly- to make money, why, whats ur intent when on ebay- mines certainly to make money

codger

Biggles: but that's not the way the seller ran the listing!

The text was simple, clear, and unambiguous.

We had years and years of scammers coming on eBay and burying the word 'image' or 'picture' or 'photograph' in pages & pages of technical spec of everything from iPods to plasma screens to mobile phones -- and by doing so, clearly displaying an intent to deceive (otherwise they wouldn't have gone to such lengths to mask the listing's fraudulent intent).

But a seller who says he/she is selling an image of something -- and doesn't seek to hide that fact in a mass of small-print text -- how can that be in any way fraudulent???

Of course I don't approve. And I'm glad eBay cracked down in the past on sellers running the small-print tech spec image/picture scam. But where's the scam here for eBay to move against?

Answer: there isn't one.

Amazombie

codger wrote:

The text was simple, clear, and unambiguous.

But a seller who says he/she is selling an image of something -- and doesn't seek to hide that fact in a mass of small-print text -- how can that be in any way fraudulent???

But where's the scam here for eBay to move against?

Answer: there isn't one.

You miss the point entirely, its the title and categorisation of the item which are misleading with intent and a breach of ebay rules. A point proven by the fact that as soon as his latest auction for another image was reported to ebay they removed it.

The title should have indicated that it was an image people were bidding on and it was clear deceit to enter the listing under consoles when it isnt.

There was clear intent by the seller to deceive and the buyers who paid large sums were numpties!