What do I need to do to become a web designer?

k0nstantine

Lil306 wrote: »

I therefore put it that you know sod all when it comes to building PC's. I built my PC too, it runs Windows and it's stable as rocky horse poo

I said it was home built, didn't say by whom did i!
So get your facts right before you go throwing your rattle out of your pram and acting like a lil child shouting your mouth off before you know ANYTHING!

Lil306 wrote: »

I'm not a Mac hater, nothing against them. Just PC's are cheaper to build, cheaper to buy and suit the function I need them for.

Windows problems, not PC!!!!!!! A Mac IS a PC !!!!!!.

Anyway, probably because most of the people who post inside this section use Windows computers. Not Apple computers. :rotfl:

No, a Mac is a Mac. It's its branding name, hence the name people use to compare it to other computers. Gezz, don't you know anything?

k0nstantine

RussJK wrote: »

Interesting, I don't really remember having much trouble on my own XP machine, similarly custom built. I don't remember it getting slower the longer it was on, like 95/98 machines did - which was all I was talking about here.

Since you brought it up, are you saying that you then Hackintoshed the unstable XP machine and then it ran perfectly?

Not had any problems with Windows 7 - other a BSOD and the 'freeze on install' bug, both due to known issues with Avast.

No, I ran a Linux system instead, which ran perfectly fine.

k0nstantine

leemoss wrote: »

I think you need your Windows machines looked at if you managing to crash them in 5/10mins.

The argument about Apple being better a graphic design is one thing, but your claims on Windows reliability/stability is rubbish in my opinion. I work in environment where I have to make sure we have 100% up-time. The need for such a high up-time is nothing to do with money, its life and death. As part of contingency planning, our command and control system was put under 24hours of heavy load. Its gone through and continues to go through ridiculous testing, everything from continuous heavy CPU load, memory leak testing, overloading the call handling systems, server fail-over etc. If Windows really crashed so easily, would the Fire Service I work for and numerous others around the country all be running Windows based command and control systems? There is alternatives out there, as we are migrating from a Unix based system. Even the MDTs (mobile data terminal) inside fire appliances run on Windows XP, these machines are used to deploy appliances to incidents and also provide GPS, real time tracking and display DWG diagrams of buildings for use in search and rescue operations.
Along with 4 other people, I support around 1000 Windows based systems everyday from desktops to servers and a number of Linux servers. If Windows was so unreliable we would surely get more support calls than we actually get. We have guys who work with land maps which are 10gb+ in size.

As mentioned in a previous post, a very large majority of the worlds cash machines all run on Windows XP. Pretty much all supermarket self service tills use Windows XP.

My home Windows 7 PC, runs GNS3 with 16 emulated routers (using a recent Cisco IOS, each with 128mb of RAM) 3 virtual machines (linux distros) and a few other apps perfectly fine.

They weren't my machines; one was actually a machine in a top of the range computer lab, one was a machine used for multimedia, the most recent was a brand new laptop running windows 7.

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k0nstantine wrote: »

So was XP out in the 95/98 era? As my old PC (high spec, home built) regularly crashed, froze, and lagged.

What were the causes of the issues? User error most likely.

I've managed to crash pcs after 5-10 mins that are running either Windows Vista, or Windows 7.

How?

My sister's laptop constantly comes up with an error message every time tried to shut down (Windows 7 pro).

What is the error?

Oh and to all you Mac haters, if PCs are so awesome and so much better than Macs as you all keep making out, why is it that so many posts on this tech forum are about PC problems and not Macs? :rotfl:

If Apple products are the pinnacle of reliability, why are there dozens of support websites and hundreds of thousands of posts (not including the ones Apple regularly delete when a high profile incident occurs) on the official Apple forums for support?

So get your facts right before you go throwing your rattle out of your pram and acting like a lil child shouting your mouth off before you know ANYTHING!

Somewhat ironic.

k0nstantine

anewhope wrote: »

What were the causes of the issues? User error most likely.




How?



What is the error?



If Apple products are the pinnacle of reliability, why are there dozens of support websites and hundreds of thousands of posts (not including the ones Apple regularly delete when a high profile incident occurs) on the official Apple forums for support?



Somewhat ironic.

There are a heck of a lot more articles, support websites, forums, posts, complaints, etc etc regarding Windows than Apple.

If i goggle Windows 7 issues, goggle fetches up 452,000,000 results.
Yet if i google OS X issues (which consists, of what? 8 different OS) it only fetches up 142,000,000.

That m'dear says it all!! Case Closed!

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k0nstantine wrote: »

There are a heck of a lot more articles, support websites, forums, posts, complaints, etc etc regarding Windows than Apple.

If i goggle Windows 7 issues, goggle fetches up 452,000,000 results.
Yet if i google OS X issues (which consists, of what? 8 different OS) it only fetches up 142,000,000.

That m'dear says it all!! Case Closed!

I'm sorry, what does that prove? Surely you are capable of coming up with something..anything that makes you look less foolish!

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k0nstantine wrote: »

There are a heck of a lot more articles, support websites, forums, posts, complaints, etc etc regarding Windows than Apple.

If i goggle Windows 7 issues, goggle fetches up 452,000,000 results.
Yet if i google OS X issues (which consists, of what? 8 different OS) it only fetches up 142,000,000.

That m'dear says it all!! Case Closed!

Macs only have a 6-7% share in the 'PC' market. Does that reopen the case?

Mac's are significantly harder to fix than their PC equivilents when things do go wrong.

Anyway - in terms of Web Design/Developement; the computer you use it irrelivent really. It's not computationally intensive. The design work isn't especially high resolution. This is a rather stupid none argument - what is important is the skills and knowledge of the developer

leemoss

k0nstantine wrote: »

They weren't my machines; one was actually a machine in a top of the range computer lab, one was a machine used for multimedia, the most recent was a brand new laptop running windows 7.

Ok, the machines weren't yours, its fairly irrelevant who they belonged to. My point still stands though. Windows IS a reliable OS these days, granted this wasn't the case in the Win 9x days.

Nothing to say about most of the fire services in the UK running critical systems on horribly unstable Windows systems?

k0nstantine

anewhope wrote: »

I'm sorry, what does that prove? Surely you are capable of coming up with something..anything that makes you look less foolish!

That you were wrong! HAhahahaha!

k0nstantine

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Macs only have a 6-7% share in the 'PC' market. Does that reopen the case?

Mac's are significantly harder to fix than their PC equivilents when things do go wrong.

Anyway - in terms of Web Design/Developement; the computer you use it irrelivent really. It's not computationally intensive. The design work isn't especially high resolution. This is a rather stupid none argument - what is important is the skills and knowledge of the developer

No. Because the majority of people only chose windows due to it being the most common/wide spread OS, the price of the computer, lack of computer knowledge(if you're a newbie you're not going to go researching into other OS when you know nothing about it- you're just going to go with what's most common) , and the fact that windows support a few more things than apple.
If apple produced lower priced computers, had more support for products, and was wider known by newbies to the computer world then Windows wouldn't stand a chance.

Just look at the smartphone industry for example.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/07/android-has-39-smartphone-market-share-in-us-apple-comes-in-second/
Windows are at the very bottom end of the market due to having competitors who offer similar value phones/packages.
They make more money from a patent agreement with HTC than they do selling phones with their own OS!
http://www.redmondpie.com/microsoft-makes-5-times-more-money-from-googles-android-than-it-does-from-windows-phone-7/

Plus if you took a thousands Window pcs, and a thousand Macs, and compared the amount of problems each system had, Windows would have the most without a doubt!
I have a friend from uni, who owns his own computer repair shop. Last year he took in 489 Windows pcs and no Macs! The year before that, the statistics were pretty much the same, and the year before that.

Yes, Macs are harder to fix than PCs, parts are a lot harder to get hold of and a lot more expensive. But surely the fact that so many products are available to use to repair a PC shows that the manufacturing industry have acknowledged that PCs aren't always built to last and are providing parts knowing there's a good chance they'd be needed. If this wasn't so, then so the computer manufacturing industry would lose millions each year, and by now, there wouldn't be half as many companies as there are!

I agree what's important are the skills and knowledge of the designer.
The OP just asked if they should go for a Mac or PC and i replied with my opinion, that was being a web designer/graphic designer myself, I'd chose a Mac over a PC for any design work as I find them to be better equipped to handle processor heavy software.