You can refuse the Work Programme

donnajunkie

chamley wrote: »

no i dont think they will give you anything.because you will only attend now and again.so ive heard,

even when on work placement they dont pay the extra money any more.

dark_lady

donnajunkie wrote: »

even when on work placement they dont pay the extra money any more.

How the hell is that legal?

donnajunkie

dark_lady wrote: »

How the hell is that legal?

i dont know. they got rid of the extra money when they started flexible new deal. now when people start a placement they get the equivalent of jsa but its called a training allowance. alot of them get people to do a work trial and perhaps that is why some dont get travel from the provider because i believe expense are claimed from the jobcentre when people do a work trial. this should be explained to them by the provider.

gothic_hobbit

donnajunkie wrote: »

because i believe expense are claimed from the jobcentre when people do a work trial. this should be explained to them by the provider.

So, if the work trial is in another town and transport is required, the jobcentre will foot the bill ?

donnajunkie

gothic_hobbit wrote: »

So, if the work trial is in another town and transport is required, the jobcentre will foot the bill ?

i found this link with some info. it doesnt mention it but i am sure they also pay upto £3 per day towards lunch as well as travel.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/programmesandservices/DG_173561

out_of_cash

Anyone who wants some real inside information on this waste of space scheme ,go over to youtube and see this video and read the technical info others are saying and have experienced whist on the scheme,you will find it very hard indeed to find anyone who has a good thing to say about it.IMHO we have too many people not enough jobs,and is likely to remain so for years to come.Big recession and a huge low wage culture "i wonder why"


Providers want to get people into jobs as once in, thats where they will stay,they cant refuse as sanctions will be placed upon them,hence the provider then gets their fat fee via the tax payer as they have placed someone in a meanial low paid job,and lets be real about this we have 1000s of low paid jobs all over uk so its easy pickings for them.Ive paid into the system for 40yrs so dont give a crap about claiming etc.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lODxZFWg-EU

Notmyrealname

Good. Nobody should be allowed to stay on the dole for 2 years without having to do something for it.

If I had my way they'd be in hi-viz vests picking up rubbish at the side of the UKs main road network and doing other such community service.

Weird_Nev

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Good. Nobody should be allowed to stay on the dole for 2 years without having to do something for it.

If I had my way they'd be in hi-viz vests picking up rubbish at the side of the UKs main road network and doing other such community service.

Goodness, that's a bit harsh!
Sounds like the kind of thing that would happen in a Police State or some kind of Fascist Regime!

imatt

Good. Nobody should be allowed to stay on the dole for 2 years without having to do something for it.

If I had my way they'd be in hi-viz vests picking up rubbish at the side of the UKs main road network and doing other such community service.

And would you:

A) Be prepared to pay people at least the nat min wage for doing so?

Be prepared to see those already doing this for a living lose THEIR jobs?

I think your argument needs thinking through a tad more.

Bob_the_Saver

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Good. Nobody should be allowed to stay on the dole for 2 years without having to do something for it.

If I had my way they'd be in hi-viz vests picking up rubbish at the side of the UKs main road network and doing other such community service.

I wonder if we forgot about the hi-viz vests it would reduce the dole queues, one way or another.