Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

SingleSue

I've tried checking my email history (only thing there was discussing an Aussie update for the morning), my posting history here (didn't join until the April) and my posting history on my site (all been deleted!) but I am coming up blank....so it might be me but I will be claiming amnesia.

Failing that, I was probably at home with the boys and their nan (my ex mum in law) visited at approx 7.15pm until approx 8pm...possibly.

Generali

Capitalism is brilliant. It has brought us cancer cures, iPhones, toy babies that soil themselves and now this:

link (SFW)

lostinrates

I've just spent about half an hour trying to do one simple sum, and my head hurts. Does this look right? I'm disputing a bill and making an offer. I know what I want the end amount to be in my offer but have to recalculate vat at old rate and allow for travel.

£. 24.40 travel £. 52.60 vat £248 work done.

I used to be quite good at that sort of thing but .......well, I have a headache and not sure figures are right yet

Fwiw, this is a bill from last spring and I queried it immediately and asked for a breakdown and have never heard back from them. They are a big charity, not a fly by night firm, and I called them in sept, oct, November and beginning of December to try and talk to someone to resolve the issue and reach agreement. Because they have never responded I just want to sent a cheque based on an total that was discussed back in April and hope they bank it. I can't imagine many charities operating as a business taking eight or so months to reach resolve over payment. So if they are that lax, they might not dispute the cheque I want to give them, which is not so far removed from the amount agreed. I feel a bit mean, and wouldn't treat a charity this way, only the business arm of one where it's a rip off (they didn't do what was agreed and what they did do they did VERY slowly.)

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

I've just spent about half an hour trying to do one simple sum, and my head hurts. Does this look right? I'm disputing a bill and making an offer. I know what I want the end amount to be in my offer but have to recalculate vat at old rate and allow for travel.

£. 24.40 travel £. 52.60 vat £248 work done.

I'd love to help ... but I don't really understand the question.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I'd love to help ... but I don't really understand the question.

Sorry, the question is, if I want the total to be 325 quid, and the travel has to be 24.40 is the maths right if I say the work done is worth £248 and the vat sum correct at£52.60?

PasturesNew

Is there VAT on travel? I'd expect not.

PasturesNew

If no VAT on Travel, then I'd make it:
£325 - £24.40 = £300.60
£300.60 for work done, inc VAT at 15% (assuming that's the rate back then) = £261.39 + VAT

£261.39 Work done
£39.21 VAT
£24.40 Travel
=====
£325.00

If there is VAT on travel, then it's:

£258.21 Work done
£24.40 Travel
£42.39 VAT
=====
£325.00

tomterm8

Which VAT rate was applicable at the time?

I think VAT exists on call out fee's I don't really know if it is chargeable on travel.

edit:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/charging/disbursements.htm_ wrote:

There are many incidental costs that your business might incur that you can't exclude from the VAT calculation when you invoice your customers. These could include travelling expenses and your own postage costs. They aren't treated as disbursements for VAT purposes.
Any costs that your business incurs itself in the course of supplying goods or services to customers are not disbursements for VAT purposes. It's you, and not your customer, who purchases the goods or services, which are supplied to and used by your business.

GDB2222

I'm assuming VAT at 17.5%. You have to go back quite a way to find it 15%.

Work is £252.20
Travel £ 24.40
Total: £276.60 (total pre VAT)
VAT: £ 48.40 (VAT at 17.5%. VAT is charged on travel costs)
Total: £325 (includes VAT at 17.5%)

Doozergirl

misskool wrote: »

wonder if doozer or someone else can help? we want to build a front porch but I am getting a bit confused. We are a semi-detached at the end of a row of semi's. So we have a public footpath on one of our sides.

Would we be able to build the porch under permitted regs or would we have to apply?

We can't do anything on our right hand side (I wanted a kitchen lean-to utility bit) because that faces the public footpath and we'd have to get PP.

Just because you have to apply for PP, doesn't mean you won't get it. For something simple like a single storey utility, a planning officer should easily be able to give the nod under their delegated authorities. They only want you to get PP so that they can check the site first to see you're not causing a hazard for vehicles or something particularly intimidating to pedestrians. Needing PP doesn't mean they don't want you to build. If you want a utility, ask for it! The fee where I live is £150.

As for the porch, aside from the usual constraints that remove your Permitted Development Rights (Listed building, AONB, conservation area etc) then you would not need PP if the porch is more than two metres away from the highway/footpath in both directions - front and side.

It would need to be less than 3 square metres in floorspace and less than 3 metres high aswell.

No buiding regulation involvement either as long as you keep the existing front door, windows are installed by a FENSA registered installer and any new electrical wiring carried out by a NICEIC registered person. They should provide certs for when you come to sell. If you take out your front door, it will be classed as an extension and you will need to apply for Building Control Approval