Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

Davesnave

lostinrates wrote: »

or in my position the gain! I make money from the horses! Having my own is part of what makes the conditions right for other peoples...I can guarantee companyu for their horses.

edit: I turned four horses away this week....would loved to have had them, would have been tremendous for income, but.....I just can't reasonably atm. I need my stables first or some more fencing.....some would have said yes, but not me!

I agree, but to see the whole picture you have to consider the inward investment of buying a property with land, compared with buying one of similar status without it.

Then there's the returns possible through alternative uses of the land, though I think people will naturally do better in activities where they have interest & expertise, like you.

tomterm8

lostinrates wrote: »

Lawn pony? .

Around here, it is just about possible to keep a couple of ponies for free, because land owners like the national trust will allow you to use their land to graze ponies to keep the grass down, and some even sign over the agricultural subsidy. BUT horses are a different matter... landowners see $$$ signs with horses that they don't with ponies...

You are probably in a different area than me, but around here, one of the dominant industries is fleecing horse owners:D

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

I agree, but to see the whole picture you have to consider the inward investment of buying a property with land, compared with buying one of similar status without it.

Then there's the returns possible through alternative uses of the land, though I think people will naturally do better in activities where they have interest & expertise, like you.

true, I agree. In fcat its interesting to see how other people price. A livery yard near me has just gone belly up. Especially worrying as they charge more than I do and paid £400 a month rent for the yard/land...they had several dozen times over the clients to pay the rent.... but the facilities they've put in are good (we have none, hence me charging less)...and muct have cost a small fortune. I've been watching the stuff they are selling on ebay and not even prepared to pay what they are asking on there. It would be interesting to know where it went wrong for them, because at that rent it should have been like taking candy from a baby.............I wonder what their increased rates where for fa cilities.....that for me would be a bit of an unknown,..

lostinrates

tomterm8 wrote: »

Around here, it is just about possible to keep a couple of ponies for free, because land owners like the national trust will allow you to use their land to graze ponies to keep the grass down, and some even sign over the agricultural subsidy. BUT horses are a different matter... landowners see $$$ signs with horses that they don't with ponies...

You are probably in a different area than me, but around here, one of the dominant industries is fleecing horse owners:D

no, that's a nationwide industry. I have even been part of it.

Its intersting the horse/pony divide. Technically of course, a horse can be bigger, and a 14h2 pony can weigh more and have bigger feet (the causes of damage) than a 15 hand horse.


You'd be impressed with the grass here that looks sheep grazed. Much better than the cow land next door.

edit: why are the nt allowing it for free? They have such a disconect around the country.....it took me AGES to get them to let me buy a licence to take toddler neices acroos their land to avoid a traffic accident black spot because of the dmage two small ponies would do to the land (a stone track). They have no joined up thinking. I'm not a fan of the NT for various reasons, but a lot of what they promote in nature and agriculture and conservation is so far wide of sensible or possible on a wider scale: there is so much possiblity they don't explore or exploit.

lostinrates

because I mentioned them :

http://www.renegadehoofboots.com/bootcolors.html

there are several designs, and we have some but not that make, but I long for sparkly gold horse feet.

tomterm8

lostinrates wrote: »

because I mentioned them :

http://www.renegadehoofboots.com/bootcolors.html

there are several designs, and we have some but not that make, but I long for sparkly gold horse feet.

That has to be the worst business website I've seen in my life... How do you buy the shoes?

sss555s

tomterm8 wrote: »

That has to be the worst business website I've seen in my life... How do you buy the shoes?

Here you go tom...

http://www.renegadehoofboot.com/

lostinrates

tomterm8 wrote: »

That has to be the worst business website I've seen in my life... How do you buy the shoes?

lol, no idea. I think my trimmer might be able to get hold them....but not sure. trimmer recommends other brands. special girls feet are too big for renegades, but we have shoes called boas for here, and there are a few other brands.

edit: should add the shoes can and do wear out eventually, but not like metal ones, and because the horse isn't wearing them all the time * the wear is over a MUCH longer period of time.

*there are occasions and circumstances where you'd use them other than for working the horse.


there is a very strong argument for barefoot being very much better for most horses than metal shoes. proprioception seems improved, they have proper contact ewith the ground (as a horse foot is designed to me but isn't with shoes on) reducing he causes of many lamenesses and improving circulation.

thebare foot doesn't make that satisfying clip clop sound though.

sss555s

Getting DD to school and back (car and bus) last year costs £75 pw and is one of the main reasons I changed the car after only one year. It now costs £44pw and saving a woppin £124 every 4 weeks.

Money saving or what! :money:

Course she could have went to the nearest school and got the bus from the end of the village for free.

Up here you can pretty much pick the secondary school you want to go to and you'd be unlucky not to get in. I think there are seven schools between here and the one she actually goes to.



Lir. If you can start up without having business debt and work up to being profitable without relying on your income to pay the bills then no reason why it can't work. The other lot may have had to rely in their income and had debt with the bank then lost customers by increasing prices in the recession, it can easy get on top of you.

sss555s

lostinrates wrote: »

thebare foot doesn't make that satisfying clip clop sound though.

Can't you get an app for that?