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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

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  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Every person having to work an extra year (or an extra 7 in my case) is job-blocking a dole person's potential job .... so I don't get it really. Unless there's full employment only X will ever have a job, so why force those who have worked solidly, without a break for 50 years, to work extra?

    As the Dragons say "I'm out" :)
  • Davesnave
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Lots of teachers have worked in both sectors over the course of their careers and think nothing of it. It would be a shame if changes to the TPS upset that.

    It's probably different at secondary level, but I only knew teachers go in one direction; to the private sector. We lost a few of our best when the mood changed in the 90s, as both kids and their parents became more challenging. The sentiment was always, "I don't need to put up with this."

    Ironically, the thing that stopped the rot, just around the time I left, was a new Head, who came from the private sector, having resigned from his previous post on a matter of principle.

    Not too many of those around, though! :rotfl:
  • Generali
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    Every person having to work an extra year (or an extra 7 in my case) is job-blocking a dole person's potential job .... so I don't get it really. Unless there's full employment only X will ever have a job, so why force those who have worked solidly, without a break for 50 years, to work extra?

    As the Dragons say "I'm out" :)

    Nobody is forced to work longer but you can if you want.

    MiL is a medical audio typist. They are no longer trained here so there are few people of working age with the skills to do the job. She works 2-3 days a week doing a job that otherwise would be done far less efficiently and effectively. She had lives in her hands so it's probably not a bad idea for her to be super-competent.
  • LydiaJ
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    edited 30 November 2011 at 9:36AM
    Davesnave wrote: »
    It's probably different at secondary level, but I only knew teachers go in one direction; to the private sector. We lost a few of our best when the mood changed in the 90s, as both kids and their parents became more challenging. The sentiment was always, "I don't need to put up with this."

    Ironically, the thing that stopped the rot, just around the time I left, was a new Head, who came from the private sector, having resigned from his previous post on a matter of principle.

    Not too many of those around, though! :rotfl:

    I've known some secondary teachers go from private to state, although it's true that mostly they're the younger ones, or else people who fancy working in 6th form colleges.

    We have our own version of challenging parents - the ones who think they are paying you for their kid to get an A* and it's all your fault if they don't!

    I expect to work well into my 60s. My mum was forced to retire the day before she turned 65, although she didn't really want to. She'd only ever been part time since us kids came along, so she went off and found herself some other part time secretarial/administrative roles, but in a voluntary capacity working for two charities. My dad took early retirement at 62 and then carried on going into the university most days for the next twenty odd years to carry on doing his research just because he enjoyed it. If I retired at 60 and lived as long as my grandmother, I'd be drawing my pension for more years than I'd been working for, and that's obviously silly. (She lived to 103.)

    They are changing a lot of the public sector schemes to depend on career average salary rather than final salary, and that should make things more flexible - if people want to wind down gradually by giving up some of their extra responsibilities as they get older, it won't have a disproportionate effect on their pensions.
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  • silvercar wrote: »
    Just debating whether its worth putting the bins out tonight?

    Double whammy because our council have decided that the street lights are switched off between midnight and 6am, so a pavement littered with random wheelie bins and paper collection boxes is a real hazard.


    Is this something we should get used to?

    Certainly more strikes going forward, not good for nice areas starting to look like slums. Rubbish everywhere, smell of urine and thats just Wetminster.
  • michaels
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    Unless the staff in the MPs free bars go on strike in which case Westminster area should become a lot more civilised...
    Darthvader wrote: »
    Is this something we should get used to?

    Certainly more strikes going forward, not good for nice areas starting to look like slums. Rubbish everywhere, smell of urine and that's just Westminster.
    I think....
  • lemonjelly
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    michaels wrote: »
    Unless the staff in the MPs free bars go on strike in which case Westminster area should become a lot more civilised...

    Ah, but they won't, as their final salary pension schemes are not under threat.

    All in this together...
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
  • vivatifosi
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    lemonjelly wrote: »
    Ah, but they won't, as their final salary pension schemes are not under threat.

    All in this together...

    If MPs honestly think that they'll come out of the other end of this without massive pressure from both public and private sector employees to have the last bastions of gold plated pensions addressed, they live in an even bigger bubble than we think they do.
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  • lostinrates
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    A bit lower...


    Had I made one, my quip woul have been, ''Bigger than that.''
  • GDB2222
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    Every person having to work an extra year (or an extra 7 in my case) is job-blocking a dole person's potential job .... so I don't get it really. Unless there's full employment only X will ever have a job, so why force those who have worked solidly, without a break for 50 years, to work extra?

    As the Dragons say "I'm out" :)

    My father worked until he was nearly 80. He enjoyed his work, and it gave him satisfaction.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
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