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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things
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Given that the carers have to either drive or be able to use public transport, I would have thought shaking some tablets out of a dispenser marked with the correct day would not be too difficult.
its not all about shaking tablets out of dispenser though is it?
the person may not know if the individual has already taken the tablets themselves even if it is from a container with the day and time written on it... thus possibly giving them an overdose ( potentially fatal)
the person may not know if the individual has an allergic reaction to the tablets ( potentially fatal)
the individual may not know if the pharmicist has administered the correct dosage or the wrong one ( this happens much more often that you would ever believe by the way ... oh and potentially fatal )
the person does not know the whole medical history of the individual ... thus possibly causing more damage than good ( guess what potentially fatal yet again) ...
the person takes the risk of being accused of stealing etc medication ( ok not fatal ... but could loose their job etc)
that is ALOT of responsibility for someone on very little pay and no doubt no training to have ...
shaking tablets out of a dispenser for somebody else ( especially when you only see them half an hour /hour once or twice a week) can be very dangerous .....0 -
Only slightly amusing, my DW is doing a short course on how to teach maths to your kids (subtracting by counting on, that sort of thing) and there was a question about cooking a turkey of the form 'The turkey must be cooked for 20 mins per kilo plus 30 mins, how long must you could a 4kg bird for'....but of course this question was obviously just lifted without thought from the imperial 20mins per pound question of years before with no thought as to whether the cooking time needed to change for the change in units. We are havign xmas dinner at my sister's this year, I hope the turkey is cooked for longer than 10 mins per pound...
Was that for fan assisted?
neverdespairgirl wrote: »ISTR hearing that people are more likely on average to divorce than move banks....
OMG i best get cracking!neverdespairgirl wrote: »...They moved from Lloyds a couple of years ago because they kept getting young spotty "account managers" ringing up my Dad and hassling him to buy insurance for this and credit services for that. Every time he went to pay a cheque in, they'd try to flog him something. It got on his nerves.
I moved from RBS because my defecated business contact only had a mobile number and was never contactable. I'd always just have to call the branch in the end and talk to someone else and he would get back to me, not that I bothered them hardly at all. Any time anyone ever contacted you was "to help you by" offering you some product you didn't want. Then there was the annual review which they insisted you went in, sat waiting for 30 mins, have someone try and sell you cwap. I told them I was annoyed by that waste of time and never went for another "annual review". And last but not least, the rising bank charges which were becoming a joke.
Business banking can be a right pain when they are constantly trying to extract as much as possible from you but I'm glad to say the Free business banking from Santander Is as good as personal banking as long as you don't have to contact them very often.
OMG that ended up a bit of a rant. :A 0 -
I moved from RBS because my defecated business contact only had a mobile number and was never contactable.
:T:T:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::T:T...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »:T:T:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::T:T
Sounds about right to me LOL
Gawd knows who put that there :A0 -
I'm with Santander and feel I must be the only person on the planet who has had absolutely no problems with them, any queries they have sorted quickly, any problems ditto.
Just plain, straight forward banking...unlike Lloyds which was a blooming nightmare (circa 1990 ish)
Ex was down at the weekend and he actually had the boys for a decent amount of time (9.40 until 4.30) although he did try to hand them back to me two hours early. He actually said to eldest that he felt like a proper dad...eldest met that with stony silence.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
Ex was down at the weekend and he actually had the boys for a decent amount of time (9.40 until 4.30) although he did try to hand them back to me two hours early. He actually said to eldest that he felt like a proper dad...eldest met that with stony silence.
Ex has an interesting idea of what "proper Dad" entails. All credit to eldest for his silence on the issue........much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
its not all about shaking tablets out of dispenser though is it?
the person may not know if the individual has already taken the tablets themselves even if it is from a container with the day and time written on it... thus possibly giving them an overdose ( potentially fatal)
That is why I suggested an electronically controlled pill dispenser that only allows one lot of pills to be taken and then is locked until the next lot is due.
the person may not know if the individual has an allergic reaction to the tablets ( potentially fatal)
That's not the carer's responsibility. It's the prescriber's.
the individual may not know if the pharmicist has administered the correct dosage or the wrong one ( this happens much more often that you would ever believe by the way ... oh and potentially fatal )
That's not the carer's responsibility, but I guess that you are saying that a regular carer would be more likely to notice that. If PN fills the pill dispenser once a week, she would have a good chance of noticing any wrong items from the pharmacist.
the person does not know the whole medical history of the individual ... thus possibly causing more damage than good ( guess what potentially fatal yet again) ...
the person takes the risk of being accused of stealing etc medication ( ok not fatal ... but could loose their job etc)
that is ALOT of responsibility for someone on very little pay and no doubt no training to have ...
shaking tablets out of a dispenser for somebody else ( especially when you only see them half an hour /hour once or twice a week) can be very dangerous .....
It's a very undervalued job, I agree, but some of the people I have seen doing it cheated so as to earn more money.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
I presume so, it's a proper company, put in place by Social Services, to provide the task of a 15 minute "meds call" each morning.that is actually alot of responsibility for a person earning very little to have ( giving out the meds that is )... have they been properly trained in administering medication? by law the person recieving the meds can also refuse to take them
its a tough situation and you have my sympathy0 -
This is why I think there needs to be more "complexes" for old people to move to, with all the services on site. They'd then just be going along the row of bungalows/flats without travelling time.i will agree alot of carers are worse than useless ... some of the ones i have worked with i despair on how on earth they ever took the job on ... what i will also tell you though is that ... a person may have to be at say your old's house for 9am ... spend an hour ( half an hour in some cases ... whatever the care package provides) then be at another persons house for 10 am ( or 9.30 if its half an hour) this other persons house can be 5 /6 or even many more miles away ... they may land up going 10 hours without a break ( and yes i know that is illegal) in that time have to shower etc 6 or so people ... it can be a tough job and i wouldnt want to do it ... but i know of several that do ( and not all of them good either) ... but if you pay peanuts you do get monkeys
While they're forced to stay in their own homes it's harder for the old people as they're lonely and harder for the carers/support services to be focussed on the job and not whether they'll get a parking ticket or mugged.
My old is desperate to go into sheltered..... living in a small place all on one level, with neighbours around them "just like them". We're expecting it to take 2-3 years at least. Old is currently back of the list as they own their own home .... and buying one isn't an option in case the old gets in and decides they hate it, or if they deteriorate, as we'd then have two properties owned and needing running. Additionally, we've discovered if you have memory issues then you won't get sheltered anyway as they want you to stay in your own home where things are familiar. Currently awaiting the test for this, but that takes time too.0 -
Still been thinking about the meds.... that programmable one almost seems an answer, but what happens if the alarm goes off and you're out of the house? Presumably when you get back, if it's time for your next meds you can't get into the container any more.... I wonder how long it's available for.... I'm guessing it moves round so there comes a point where even with the compartment lid open you can't get the meds out - or, the last lot and the next lot can squeeze out.
The old goes out on various times/dates each day. So meds can't be taken at the same time of the day - and it's not that important that they are. [1] when you get up [2] some time during the day, possibly 12-2ish [3] some time during the day, 3-8pm ish [4] before bed. [2] and [3] are just "take 2x a day" so you'd take them based around what's going on that day. Can't programme it for that easily, unless you're literally programming each day/tablet separately.0
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