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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,223 Forumite
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    I join you in your thoughts for those involved.

    Howevr I thought the reduction in casualties was to do with reduced urban speed limits and better passenger protection in vehicles. A while back there were a spate of mostly fog related motorway pile ups which until today don't seem to have happened for a few years - I was wondering whether there really werefewer such incidnets or whether it was really just a random distribution of low probability events looking like a pattern.
    sss555s wrote: »
    Actually road accidents have reduced a lot, but sadly there do still occur.

    Heart goes out to all the family's involved.
    I think....
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    I think it's down to car technology and a bit of other things.

    Now that we have "intelligent" cars, this will improve far more but it wont be long until we have the same situation as in F1 where they take more risks knowing they have a lesser chance of being injured or killed.
  • michaels wrote: »
    May be not the time to discuss but I was thinking we seem to get fewer big mway pile-ups than a few years ago - I can't beleive the roads or vehicles are much safer so I guess it may be a framing/reversion to mean thang.

    they are getting safer, year by year.

    The most dangerous year for road deaths was about 1926.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • silvercar
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    sss555s wrote: »
    I think it's down to car technology and a bit of other things.

    Now that we have "intelligent" cars, this will improve far more but it wont be long until we have the same situation as in F1 where they take more risks knowing they have a lesser chance of being injured or killed.

    Didn't that happen when seat belts were introduced, and then again with airbags?

    Subconciously you drive more recklessly when you feel more protected.
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  • lemonjelly wrote: »
    At severe personal risk to myself, is this a NDG spelling error?:eek:


    >>>>runs & hides

    Quite probably. I'm useless at spelling (I'm dyslexic, brain damage at birth, could have been worse).

    I have a lifetime's experience of dodging words I don't like. On stuff I have to hand write, such as backsheets, I am a past master at using words such as "mental health" to avoid having to use words starting with psy.....
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    they are getting safer, year by year.

    The most dangerous year for road deaths was about 1926.

    Hey NDG

    Because of your input today i have been looking at beds.

    My next bed will be a super king size!

    The one on holiday was 7ft by 7ft by me reckoning and i always like the massive beds on holiday so the best i can do without going "overboard" is a super king size! It will fit in fine. :beer:
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    Didn't that happen when seat belts were introduced, and then again with airbags?

    Subconciously you drive more recklessly when you feel more protected.

    Yes silvercar, i agree.
    Quite probably. I'm useless at spelling (I'm dyslexic, brain damage at birth, could have been worse).

    I have a lifetime's experience of dodging words I don't like. On stuff I have to hand write, such as backsheets, I am a past master at using words such as "mental health" to avoid having to use words starting with psy.....

    Stop it NDG. That is just too endearing :o

    To me it could have been spelt< either way.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    edited 5 November 2011 at 1:00AM
    It's on the BBC 24 now.

    It's considered it's weather-related. Appalling weather conditions, rain/fog just before the accident.

    I was on the M5 a little earlier and a little further north - driving northbound from the M4/M5 junction at about 5.30. Appalling is the right word to describe the weather conditions. I think the only time I've experienced that kind of volume of water hitting the windscreen is during a carwash when the hoses are on full power straight at you. There was a bit of fog but nothing like as bad as it seems to have been further south.

    I was quite scared driving - kept thinking about how late-nearly-ex's accident was related to water on the road. I couldn't put off the journey because I needed to get home to pick up my kids. I slowed down quite a lot, and stayed in the slow lane, but there were loads of vehicles going much faster than I was. It did occur to me to consider a different route, but I thought I was safer on the motorway - late-nearly-ex's accident was a head-on collision on a single carriageway road (both cars doing 60mph so relative speed of 120mph, much higher than you should get with a central reservation). Reading tonight's news makes me feel sick. _pale_
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    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,223 Forumite
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    I'm glad you are home safe Lydia and I'm sorry this topic is so personal for you.

    Heading in a more theoretical direction I know the French have lower speed limits in the wet, I wonder whether they do suceed in lowering speeds when conditions are more dangerous and thus reduce accidents?
    I think....
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    Thoughts are with you Lydia and i can imagine what your feeling.

    Viva, i wasn't being sarcastic about your song but i admit i only read the first verse at the time and not the chorus. My bad :o
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