Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

Davesnave

elona wrote: »

I have spent the last two days sorting through a four drawer filing cabinet, relabelling stuff and throwing out old docs etc. I am about three quarters of the way through and shattered but at least we can open the drawers now they are not crammed full to bursting.
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Oh noes! Someone who's actually proved it's possible! Now I have no excuses left....:(

PasturesNew

Need to go out to pharmacy now .... just taking 5 minutes to have a coffee first ... and hoping the well old gets up as I've heard nothing and don't want to check if they died in the night, so would prefer it if they got up. Had shower/washed hair... got out and was towelling off when I realised I'd still got a head of suds ... totally forgot to rinse. My brain's gone soft

So ... make that 3 loonies trying to stumble about today.

vivatifosi

elona wrote: »

DH has just reminded me there are still loads of docs he has been dealing with while I was ill and it is all in a huge ledger thing. As his idea of filing is to just shove things in any roughly appropriate (only to him) plastic folder - sigh - it looks as if I still have at least a days work to do, if not more.

Ooh that sounds familiar. When I didn't know whether I would live I started putting everything in purple folders (no rationale to the colour, just cheapest in Staples) and labelling them "house docs, to DH", "my life insurance, to DH", "xx project, to business partner" etc. There are about 40 of them with instructions on as to how to wind up business and take profit out etc. Looking at them now it is very morbid but I'm glad I did it.

In general I hate sorting out paperwork though. I lose money every year by being the person that keeps receipts in my purse for far too long so that the numbers rub out and then I can't claim them.

vivatifosi

PasturesNew wrote: »

Need to go out to pharmacy now .... just taking 5 minutes to have a coffee first ... and hoping the well old gets up as I've heard nothing and don't want to check if they died in the night, so would prefer it if they got up. Had shower/washed hair... got out and was towelling off when I realised I'd still got a head of suds ... totally forgot to rinse. My brain's gone soft

So ... make that 3 loonies trying to stumble about today.

Pastures I think you may be overtired. Any change of grabbing a couple of naps today around your other commitments?

GDB2222

Davesnave wrote: »

Plastic covers, well-fitted, should last a minimum of 7 years.

The hedge is west boundary and there's a shelter belt of trees beyond. Obviously, they reduce light late on summer afternoons, but by then, as you're hinting, things can be pretty hot inside the average tunnel. This tunnel will have side ventilation to 1m and double sliding doors both ends.

Can I just check please? Yesterday, you removed the top layer of the site, levelled it, dug 14 holes for the hoops (using just a spade and wheelbarrow), put the hoops in and concreted them in place? In that case, if you are free for a couple of days next week, can you build me a house, please? Small bonus if you are finished by lunch time on the second day, so we can move in for tea.

MFW_10YRS_4

lostinrates wrote: »

thanks.

re low temps, do you think 12 celcius is an unreasonable expectation? One of the problems we find is that official guides are based on a minimum of wanting to heat to 18, where as 18 is what we'd hope for only when people are here and the fires all going.


Insulation is actually the thing I've been sorting this week, we can't have any down until october, (BAts) but I've arranged for it to go in. In the ''vaulted'' ceilings like the kitchen we've opted for thicker insulation on the specification and having just the major beams showing. The rooms with the reall high ceilings will have the underflor and woodburners (and one occasional fireplace) so making sure they are the easiest to efficiently heat...and keep warm. fwiw I think it will also look better.

I think the typical range for the water in a UFH system is between 35% and 50% (with 50% being the absolute maximum). The room thermostats are in our UHF areas are to around 19C which is a comfortable temperature for the living room zone, the bedrooms are a little less and the hallway zone even less (we have 4 zones off the UFH manifold).

I found this on the BBC:

Living room temperatures

• 18-21C - comfortable temperature
• 9-12 or 24+C: Risk of stroke and heart attack
• 21-24C or 16-18C - some discomfort
• 12-16C - risk of respiratory disease
• Less than 9C - risk of hypothermia

According to these figures, if you run your UFH at a room temperature of 12C you are running the risk of respiratory disease. I guess this means that any dampness in your house will condense on your cold walls and funghi spores will form?

We had a cold winter when we first moves into our house and went through a small fortune in gas, wood and anthracite trying to keep the house warm. The trouble we had was as soon as the fires went out, the house went cold really quickly due to lack of insulation. We have since fully insulated the roof to above building regs and already feel the difference in heat and noise reduction.

If your renovations are not going to be complete by winter then invest in warm PJ's, dressing gown, pullovers and throws on the couch to wrap yourselves up in! It'll be a bit miserable, but as long as its short term, no harm will come of it. If nothign else, it will make you appreciate your completed renovations the following winter!!

P.S. if you are thinking of having a wood burner in an out burning to supply hot water, have a look at a wood pellet burner with a hopper. you can fit 24 hrs worth of fuel into the hopper, which makes you less of a slave to your heating!!

lostinrates

MFW_10YRS wrote: »

I think the typical range for the water in a UFH system is between 35% and 50% (with 50% being the absolute maximum). The room thermostats are in our UHF areas are to around 19C which is a comfortable temperature for the living room zone, the bedrooms are a little less and the hallway zone even less (we have 4 zones off the UFH manifold).

I found this on the BBC:

Living room temperatures

• 18-21C - comfortable temperature
• 9-12 or 24+C: Risk of stroke and heart attack
• 21-24C or 16-18C - some discomfort
• 12-16C - risk of respiratory disease
• Less than 9C - risk of hypothermia

According to these figures, if you run your UFH at a room temperature of 12C you are running the risk of respiratory disease. I guess this means that any dampness in your house will condense on your cold walls and funghi spores will form?

We had a cold winter when we first moves into our house and went through a small fortune in gas, wood and anthracite trying to keep the house warm. The trouble we had was as soon as the fires went out, the house went cold really quickly due to lack of insulation. We have since fully insulated the roof to above building regs and already feel the difference in heat and noise reduction.

If your renovations are not going to be complete by winter then invest in warm PJ's, dressing gown, pullovers and throws on the couch to wrap yourselves up in! It'll be a bit miserable, but as long as its short term, no harm will come of it. If nothign else, it will make you appreciate your completed renovations the following winter!!

P.S. if you are thinking of having a wood burner in an out burning to supply hot water, have a look at a wood pellet burner with a hopper. you can fit 24 hrs worth of fuel into the hopper, which makes you less of a slave to your heating!!

I was thicking twelve with the ufh, in rooms with no supplementary heating on.


I hate over heated rooms, (despite being a cold person). One of the first things the doctor told me when I got ill was a whole lecture on how bad heating is for people, and that it was especially bad for dh's skin (psoarisis). In london we used NO heating unless guests, or outside was below ten in the day time, we set thermostat to between 12-14 though the flat was top floor, so we had heat from flat below.

We have no loft insulation at all yet :eek: but did find last year that once the house was heated it was surprisingly good at holding heat...takes a couple of days to he:eek:at up, but then if woodburner off the house stays normal person comfortable but not cosy for about as long as it took to heat up. With insulation this will be even better I hope!

Last year the oil ran out in January! (we had a boiler, which packed up as soon as the new oil arrived :rotfl:).

I kept reminding my self that we've been in worse situation (the flat we rented in Milan ...i.e. pretty near the foot of the alps!) turned out to have no roof...(long story) and when winter started rain poured in, unsurpisingly) and we lost all heating and power and froze, had to use amonia daily everywhere...walls and ceilings for mould (yuck) and live by candle light until we found somewhere else to move to.:rotfl: It was quite fun for a while, candle lit huddling. So this is much better.

I have been thinking about one of those sleeping bags with legs though, for daywear! :o

edit: I remember the miserable bits too, but much healthier the good bits! focus on th

LydiaJ

lir, I'm interested in why you want your HW woodburner to be in an outbuilding. I imagine there must be some reason for not having it in the house where any escaping heat would help heat the house and decrease the need for other heating.

lostinrates

LydiaJ wrote: »

lir, I'm interested in why you want your HW woodburner to be in an outbuilding. I imagine there must be some reason for not having it in the house where any escaping heat would help heat the house and decrease the need for other heating.

Not for domestic use! We'll have a separate one in an outbuilding. Simplest way in our set up to provide protection for some equipment, provide some heat for an office/room to shelter from cold without coming into the house...i.e. for business use mainly, and to keep pipes from freezing!


Its a complicated thing, here and on farms and I guess some other work from home or next to home situations: where systems link in or not, what you pay business rates on or not, what is business or not. Additionally, because we have more than one building needing heat and/or power at some point in the furture we're trying to zone....e.g. the room with the woodburner will be OUR use only, but the room above, getting just enough heat from below will be business use. All the horses here use the same facilities, some our our own hobby animals and not in anyway connected to or funded by business, but use the facilities. We wouldn't have some of those facilities availablke if they weren't for the hobby-horses! (at the moment I deal with that simply by paying by business account for their livery for facilities and also, simply lending stuff clearly outside set paramtres of business to the others, in the future this will be slightly different...but the future involves money I don't have available yet!

When you come to visit you'll get the door of delapidations:D. Please remember to bring your rose tinted spectacles and some spare imagination!

lostinrates

lostinrates wrote: »

edit: I remember the miserable bits too, but much healthier the good bits! focus on th

what the dickens happened there? Surely a curser jump not even I could muddle stuff out of my mind onto the screen that badly:eek: